[RWP] Getting forward

[Stephan Merk]

Hi all, hi Indi,

thanks at first for your time and help. I am very familiar with screen
readers than over 20 years and know their work. But in my system at the time
I only use NVDA because I hate the highly integration and the many many
problems regarding this. In the last 20 years I had much computers of
customers on witch the OS was gone related to screen reader issues, many
lacks of older versions and the fact, that they all wait for paid update if
Microsoft installs their new browsers. ;-) So I use NVDA and support them
with some money and they don't disappoint me with their work. ;-) However,
it's truly a benefit with integrated OCR, this was also be discussed in 1991
by Dr. Karl-Heinz Weirich for a solution to grab the screen information. But
in this time the computers are as slow as they are not able to emulate
several synths as today. ;-)

At the time I won't spend much more money since I don't know really if
Reaper fits al my needs. At hardware I have a microKEY 61 which has not the
benefits to have knobs and buttons, but the MPKmini of Akai Pro does have 8
knobs in two parts and 8 pads also in two banks. They also can send MIDI
control changes. As I think, the MPC Ren hardware can also be used as a MIDI
controller. But my simple problem is that I haven't much space to set all
around my computer. So the MPC is placed in another corner of the room and I
have to walk to my different work places. The microKEY is placed on the
desktop so I have it in reach.

SO in that case I thought about using a controller. MidiMap of Novation I
know and for a short time I owned a Ultranova which has also knobs and could
be used with Midimap which was included I think. But this was before I had
Reaper and the MPC so I sent it back.

What I saw is that Reaper can use an usual joystick for MIDI commands, I
will try to use this with my xBox controller.

About the VST window it is not a great problem use this with magnification
but I miss the feature to open it up. If I close it, the track is set and
the plugin window is away so I can't make any changes. ;-)


Viele Grüße

--
Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de


-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:29 AM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward

Well, opening the VST window and making changes is what all of us here are
attempting to do.
Many of Reaper's bundled effects are very accessible, that is, display all
their parameters at your tab and arrow keys.
Some VST plugs, like those by Native Instruments, are not friendly at all,
full of bit map images, that is, little photos, that a screenreader can't
read.
Some of us use the number pad cursors in Jaws and Window-Eyes to find screen
buttons.
Some use Jaws OCR;; Optical Character Recognition, to find screen buttons
and label bit map icons.
NVDA just got its own OCR.
I just bought the Novation Nocturn controller and AutoMap, $99 USD, which
actually does automatically map all my VST plugs and assigns their buttons
and icons to the little Nocturn, with its 8 knobs and 8 buttons.
Alchemy synth has more than 27 pages, each page with 8 knobs and 8 buttons
that control all kinds of parameters in Alchemy.
All this is what we call access, and we'll eventually have as much access as
any sighted user.
Indi



On 7/5/2013 3:15 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
> ...and the next questions...
>
> How I open the VST window and make program changes?
>
>
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> --
> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:40 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>
> Reaper lets you advance or jog through recorded audio by pressing and 
> holding your left and right arrow keys.
>    Stop pressing left or right arrow when you arrive where you want to be.
> As for measures, when you're all the way left on a track, by hitting w 
> or home key, you're at measure 1 beat 1, then press your page down key 
> to advance.
> Measures and beats will be spoken as the cursor moves along the timeline.
> Same when you press page up, you hear the measure and beat as the 
> cursor moves back to the left.
> Press the end key to go to the end of track, and the length of track 
> is spoken.
>
> On 7/5/2013 12:41 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>> Hi Indi,
>>
>> the MPC Renaissance is not just a drum machine, it is a combined 
>> Groove Box/Sample Player/Drum Machine and a very intuitive and 
>> complete sequencing unit. You have a hardware controller with it's 
>> own display, audio engine, pads and touch sensitive control knobs as 
>> well as the software component which is the heart of the MPC. But if 
>> you want to, you can throw the PC into a treasure because all is 
>> controlled by the hardware. That gives you the feeling of a real 
>> hardware machine and it's workflow combined with all you expect from 
>> a real DAW: Audio and MIDI sync, VST, also controlled by the 
>> hardware, programming like the real MPC's but with the benefit to use 
>> also the mouse in the DAW frontend on the computer. But the software 
>> isn't accessible and I have to use the hardware with a magnifying glass.
>> However this solution fits all my needs, are they some issues which I 
>> want to solve with Reaper. The first is the XLN Audio software which 
>> I cannot really control by the MPC hardware because of missing 
>> program change commands. I can't chose a drum kit as I like, as well 
>> as different piano types. Because of the migration to 64-Bit, some 
>> 32-Bit VST's won't work anymore since in the 32-Bit release. In 
>> Reaper the 32-Bit VST Bridge can handle all of them,
>> x64 as well as x86 plugins.
>>
>> Because of my experiences with much sequencers and rhythm generators 
>> and the known workflow using patterns and songs, creating a loop for 
>> 8 bars and set the notes as I want to, delete them or use the step 
>> sequencers, I'm very familiar with this and it's a workflow which 
>> only
> needs a few buttons.
>> Example: Triggering a drum pattern, delete a hi-hat, the same with 
>> melody tracks with the connected keyboard. IF it's ready, copy the 
>> loop and re-construct it to a break, fill-in or whatever.
>>
>> In Reaper, it seems that I have only one measure from starting point 
>> till the ending point and I have to measure the song in this way. As 
>> you described, I have to look into the editor, find out each note by 
>> searching (not by hearing as in the MPC) and telete it manually. If I 
>> have a song with
>> 32 bars of the same groove, I have to re-create it 32 times or maybe 
>> I can mark, copy and paste it. But with much, much more key commands 
>> except for one simple erase key on the MPC.
>>
>> It's hard to explain, but it seems to me if someone changes from a 
>> bicycle to a big truck. :D But both wil get you into the goal, the 
>> truck not even much faster. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Viele Grüße
>>
>> --
>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 6:29 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>
>> You are suffering from comparing Reaper to your drum machine moves 
>> from the Akai MPC.
>> No, Reaper is not as simple to use as a drum machine, but you can't 
>> do detailed editing in a drum machine; like you can in Reaper.
>> Just learn the couple of shortcuts to get into Reaper's midi editor, 
>> and you'll soon make note changes as quick as on the MPC.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 7/5/2013 6:16 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>> Hi Indi,
>>>
>>> that sounds a little complex. I remember on Voyetra about a similar 
>>> way, a piano roll editor, in which the notes are played if I went 
>>> arount with the arrow keys. But here, as well as on the MPC Ren, I 
>>> can hold the erase button together with the wrong note and key, so 
>>> it's away. A much faster way I think. I guess that's not really 
>>> possible in
>> Reaper?
>>>
>>> However, I'll try out your steps you wrote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Viele Grüße
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:34 AM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>>
>>> I think I understand what you want.
>>> Do you want to delete or edit 1 wrong note in a track, really 1 
>>> wrong note in an item?
>>> You go to the midi editor.
>>> First select the track, by up/down arrowing to it.
>>> Then select the item that has the wrong note.
>>> either press shift+A or ctrl+shift+right arrow to select an item.
>>> With the item you want to edit selected, press ctrl+alt+E.
>>> You will hear the words midi editor.
>>> Press enter and you are in the midi editor.
>>> Press alt+V to bring up the view menu.
>>> Arrow to Show as list, and press enter.
>>> Now you will have a very neat display, with the midi notes events 
>>> all laid out in lists on the track's time line.
>>> Each note/event list  is numbered.
>>> Press your tab key to sort through the note events, and at your 
>>> arrow keys you can change values, like the note's pitch, position on 
>>> the time line, note length, and more.
>>> If your note on velocity is too high or low, change it at the value
> field.
>>> If the note number is wrong, so you hear the wrong drum sound, 
>>> change it at the value field at your arrow keys.
>>> When finished editing, tab down to OK and press enter.
>>>
>>>
>>> As to recording only part of an item, without losing the part that 
>>> is correct, select the track, then select the item, as described above.
>>> Use your right and left arrows to move the cursor to the place the 
>>> recording went wrong; then press the letter S to split the original 
>>> item into two items.
>>> One of the now 2 items will contain the recording you want to keep 
>>> and the other will contain the recording you want to redo.
>>> You can now delete the recording you don't want to keep, if you 
>>> like; and record a new item correctly.
>>> I hope this helps,
>>> Indi
>>> On 7/4/2013 4:29 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Now I tried something more and found how I can create multiple tracks.
>>>> I did this as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Inserting Virtual Instrument with Ctrl+Ins, in my case Addictive
> Keys.
>>>> 2. Metronome set to on and press R for Record and play the things I
> like.
>>>> 3. Stop with space bar, I was asked to save the file which I were 
>>>> able to rename or same as described. In my case Addictive Keys.
>>>> 4. After Track 1 was created, now inserting Track 2 with Addictive 
>>>> Drums as I did above.
>>>> 5. Reaper asked me to create several tracks for each instrument. If 
>>>> I do answer this with Yes, a track for each instrument will be created:
>>>> Bass, Snare, Tom etc.
>>>> 6. Now my first stumble: If I press any key also drums and piano 
>>>> was
>>> played.
>>>> If I press record and Reaper warns me to record multiple tracks, 
>>>> the first track was overwritten. So I had to do is uncheck the rec 
>>>> marker on Track 1 before recording the next tracks.
>>>> 7. To do this, select arrow keys till you hear Track 1. Press Tab 
>>>> untel Rec mode or so is spoken, state is on. Now press space to 
>>>> change the state to Off and - very necessary - press Enter to save 
>>>> this
>> state.
>>>> 8. Then, after recording, you will only record the drum tracks.
>>>>
>>>> Now, there are some issues I have:
>>>> 1. Non-pattern based sequencers need to copy a drum style for some 
>>>> bars, but how?
>>>> 2. During recording, on my MPC I was helped by fast forwarding 
>>>> through the track and clear out one special note or key. Is this 
>>>> possible in Reaper, too?
>>>> 3. Is there a feature to overdub, e. g. to record partial melodies?
>>>>
>>>> But nice to see that it's working now! ^^
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Viele Grüße
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>>
>>>>
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