[RWP] Editing

Wed Feb 27 13:48:39 EST 2013

Hi Jim,
I haven't tested selecting items across several tracks.
When selecting an item with ctrl+shift+either right or left arrow on a 
single selected track; actually works, it is both moving along the 
timeline and selecting; so the announcement in Wineyes says Item 1 
selected, item 2 selected, etcetera; each time I do the shortcut; as the 
cursor moves along the timeline.
If I want to assure myself that I have deleted all items, I press 
ctrl+shift+left arrow, and I hear No Items Found.
I've also noticed that shift+A has select all items at once, on a single 
selected track; so I have deleted all items on a track, when I didn't 
intend to.
I'll try to reinstall version 3.78 today, and check out whether 
selecting an item, then pressing E for editor, then enter to open the 
editor, causes ctrl+shift+arrows to quit working; when I return to track 
view;  as it does in 4X versions.
It's especially annoying to have alt sometimes drop the menus, and 
sometimes need to press F10 to drop the menus, and I haven't yet learned 
what causes Alt key to stop working.

I knew about selecting with shift+A, which is shown in ReaAccess F12 
learning mode, but I seem to remember that ctrl+shift+arrows was working 
until somewhere in the 4X versions, maybe around 4.22, when many 
ReaAccess features hit the fan.
With version 4.32; I need to press Roy Stupler's workaround: ctrl+up 
arrow several times before I finally get the extended track recording 
options menu to display with the applications key.
Did you know that is the same menu; which begins with Monitor Item; 
that sighted users get by right clicking with the mouse; on the track's 
arm button?

If I knew a hot spot system, it might be much more reliable to locate 
that bit map arm button icon; then create  a shortcut to right click it.

Since Wineyes doesn't work at all in Reaper 64, I keep the latest Reaper 
on this online Windows 7 machine, and look at it with NVDA, in hopes of 
answering simple questions from beginners.
  That NVDA and Reaper 64 reality and how I actually work in XP are 
becoming farther and farther apart tthough.
I'm at the point of deciding whether I need to know about new features I 
can't use, as you say, or should I get on with trying to make music, and 
let the Reaper world go on its merry way without me.
David Shortland, in currently soggy Queensland, is getting along nicely 
in Reaper and System Access, with Omnisphere.
Now, there is a neat little corner of things, everything in 1 
screenreader, 1 daw, 1 synth.

Indi

On 2/26/2013 9:49 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Really, I'm at 3.78 as well.  The bleeding edge doesn't appeal to me.
> Being tantalized by stuff I can't actually use just hacks me off.
>
> So, the difference between control+left or right arrow, and shift+A.
> Are those supposed to be identical?
> The description of Shift+A was to select the item under the cursor on,
> all selected tracks.  So, if you go to the multi-select mode, and choose
> tracks 1 3 and 5, then do shift+A. you will select the  so-called
> current item on each of those tracks.  You'll have three items selected,
> each of which occupies the time at the cursor.
>
> How about the other method, does it cross all selected tracks like that?
> One thing I have wanted is better confirmation of what is actually
> selected. It's not uncommon for me to incorrectly understand  the state
> of affairs, and to think something is selected that is not.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Editing
>
>
>> Jim, I'was using ctrl+shift+right arrow to select a track's item; when
>> it worked. Now I'm using shift+A to select an item; but in Reaper
>> 4.32, once I press E to open the selected item in the midi editor, and
>> then return to track view; I can select the item with shift+A; but I
>> can't delete that selected item with the delete key any more.
>> I need to select the item with shift+A; then go to the item menu and
>> click on Remove Item.
>> Those maddening inconsistencies; plus the fact that sometimes I can
>> open the menus with alt, and sometimes I can't, so need to press F10
>> to open the menus, has made me believe Patrick Perdue, that too many
>> ReaAccess things are getting broken as version 4X proceeds.
>> There seem to be several ways to do each thing in Reaper, thank God,
>> but I need to run through each method to learn which one works in
>> which situation.
>> I think I'll revert to Reaper version 3.78, where most things worked
>> consistently, in 32 bit XP
>> I don't believe I really need the improvements and additional features
>> in 4X, what I really need most is to work without frustration, and I
>> could; in version 3.78.
>> Someday, when someone updates or replaces ReaAccess, I'll get up to
>> date with versions.
>> Either that, or I'll somehow learn to do as well in 64 bit Reaper,
>> with NVDA,which seems very stable;  as I do now in XP with Wineyes.
>> I would terribly miss Wineyes' mouse pointer; alias Jaws PC cursor;
>> though.
>> I use NVDA almost all the time now, and understand its object
>> navigation at the numPad, but it just cannot see what's on a VST
>> plug's interface as well as Wineyes does.
>> I intend to buy the NVDA V-Mouse add on,with its 50 hot spots;  and
>> give that a try on VST interfaces.
>> Indi
>>
>> On 2/25/2013 10:21 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> That select item shortcut,  was it shift+A, or control+shift+A?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Editing
>>>
>>>
>>>> Patrick, is there another method of splitting off an unwanted item
>>>> from the main item?
>>>> I noticed last night that Reaper 4.32 will not let me select the midi
>>>> item; after I have even looked at the item in the onboard midi editor.
>>>> Actually, my usual  shortcut will not select the item; I can go to the
>>>> item menu and select all, which works.
>>>> I'm using ctrl+shift+right or left arrow to select the item, but I
>>>> think there is another shortcut to select an item, right; just can't
>>>> remember it?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/2013 8:22 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>> Make sure, before doing it that way, that ripple editing is turned
>>>>> off. Press the letter P to hear the status of ripple editing, and, if
>>>>> it's anything other than off, press alt plus P until it says  off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 19:20, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt, select the item on the selected track, place your cursor just
>>>>>> at the end of the part you don't want to keep, then press the
>>>>>> letter S.
>>>>>> The track's item should now be split at the cursor into 2 items, 1
>>>>>> from beginning to cursor, 2 from cursor to end of track.
>>>>>> Delete item 1 and you should only hear item 2, with the material you
>>>>>> want to keep.
>>>>>> I believe item 2 will begin at 0 on the track, in line with your
>>>>>> other tracks.
>>>>>> Please chime in; anyone who knows a better method.
>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/24/2013 12:30 PM, matt diemert wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok,
>>>>>>> So this will be a very basic question but one that has me stumped.
>>>>>>> When working with multiple tracks in reaper, I wish to cut off some
>>>>>>> noise at the beginning of a file. In this case, I started
>>>>>>> recording to
>>>>>>> early and there is an axcidental bass note or two. In any event in
>>>>>>> audacity to do this I would highlight the track, find the end of
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> I wish to cut and mark it with a [ then press shift home and under
>>>>>>> edit, insert a silence. The point here is I want to silence this
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> but leave the track time wise where it is so that it is synchronized
>>>>>>> with my project.
>>>>>>> Could any one here give me a hand understanding the easiest way to
>>>>>>> accomplish this without doing in audacity and importing them all
>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>> in to reaper?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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