[RWP] Help with Sinth VSTs

Jackie McBride abletec at gmail.com
Sat Dec 28 16:31:32 EST 2013


Unfortunately, Jaws 10 is pretty old & may not be picking up on stuff
it needs to pick up on. Having said that, though, Crystall, there are
some settings I'd advise u to change in Jaws. First, u should consider
setting graphics to all--not labeled, & definitively not none. Also,
try going into your verbosity preferences & check to read the
tooltips. Lastly, try seeing what happens if u set jaws to follow pc.
U might get some tooltips to read & be able to figure out what some of
those unlabeled graphics do, & then u can label 'em. Unset that option
when you're done, though, or it'll drive u absolutely nutso.

U might also try NVDA & see if that provides any better results.

On 12/28/13, Crystal Dennis <valkyriecelesyt at gmail.com> wrote:
> I feel like that may be the problem:  I have gone into the preferences
> dialogues and can only see very sparce things with the JAWS cursor.
> In that case:  Does anyone know an accessible set of orchestra sinths
> I can test out?
>
> On 12/28/13, Gianluca Apollaro <gianluca.apollaro88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> if some synths are working and some other arn't it probably means that
>> the not working ones have a non accessible interface and that you have
>> to click on some graphics to make them load their sounds.
>> Hth,
>> Best regards,
>> Gianluca from Italy.
>> Skype Id: gianluca8815
>> Il 28/12/2013 04:46, Crystal Dennis ha scritto:
>>> Yeah and every other sinth is working, so I'm wondering if I should
>>> just try another package until I find one that works...
>>>
>>> On 12/27/13, Drew <amockery at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> That is very odd. "Default" is, well, the default--in other words it's
>>>> a
>>>> shortcut that points to whatever you've set as your default device. If
>>>> there
>>>>
>>>> are no devices, that's meaningless. You must have some sound device
>>>> otherwise you would not be able to hear JAWS, but for it to not show up
>>>> is
>>>> quite strange.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Crystal Dennis" <valkyriecelesyt at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 7:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Help with Sinth VSTs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When I pull down the sound device menus I have:
>>>>>
>>>>> Primary Sound capture driver -- when Direct Sound is selected
>>>>> Microsoft Sound Mapper -- When Wave out is selected.
>>>>>
>>>>> those are the only 2 sound devices that show up and on midi I have:
>>>>> Microsoft Wavable Sinth Disabled (I tried right clicking and no menus
>>>>> came up at all....I'm also using JAWS 10)
>>>>>
>>>>> The only things I can't get working are the sound libraries, and I
>>>>> feel like there's something vital that I'm missing due to my
>>>>> newbe-ness in this subject....sorry if this is too many questions!
>>>>> But all I get are drop down menus in preferences, no way to right
>>>>> click anything even with the JAWS cursor
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/27/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Crystal, do you have a sound card that you installed into your
>>>>>> computer,
>>>>>> or is there only the RealTech sound chip?
>>>>>> If you have a third-party soundcard installed, or just RealTech,  you
>>>>>> need to get it recognized in Reaper's preferences.
>>>>>> You can play VST synths using the RealTech chip, but with large delay
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> latency; between the moment you hit the note on the keyboard and the
>>>>>> moment you hear the note.
>>>>>> To get either your installed soundcard or the built in RealTech chip
>>>>>> enabled, press ctrl+P.
>>>>>> Then navigate to audio.
>>>>>> Then tab down to the field that shows either your soundcard, or
>>>>>> RealTech, and get enabled; instead of Disabled, after its name; by
>>>>>> routing focus to the number pad.
>>>>>> The method will depend on your screenreader, but it's similar in
>>>>>> Wineyes, Jaws and NVDA.
>>>>>> Then focus at the numPad on the soundcard's name, or Disabled.
>>>>>> Then right click at the number pad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Configure Dialog should appear.
>>>>>> Press enter on the Configure Dialog, and when it opens, place
>>>>>> checkmarks
>>>>>> on use as audio device, etcetera.
>>>>>> Then arrow down to Midi Device and follow the same procedure for the
>>>>>> inputs and outputs for midi.
>>>>>> Get Disabled routed over to the number Pad, then focus on the
>>>>>> soundcard's name or Disabled, then right click and you should get the
>>>>>> midi configuration Dialog.
>>>>>> Hit enter on it.
>>>>>> When it opens, place checkmarks with your spacebar on Use as midi
>>>>>> device, etcetera.
>>>>>> Then tab down to OK and hit enter, and you'll be taken back to the
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> view.
>>>>>> To get a synth to load, you need to install it in a folder, or
>>>>>> copy/paste its .dll into a folder, so Reaper can find it.
>>>>>> I keep all VST's in C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins which, if I
>>>>>> typed it correctly, is the exact path to my synths folder.
>>>>>> To type in the path to where you are keeping VST plugIns, press
>>>>>> ctrl+P,
>>>>>> then arrow down to VST, then tab down to where Reaper asks you to
>>>>>> type
>>>>>> in a path to your VST plugIns.
>>>>>> Same here as when getting a soundcard enabled, be sure to click enter
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> OK before exiting.
>>>>>> To load a synth, press the letter F while on a selected track and the
>>>>>> load dialog opens.
>>>>>> Navigate with tab and arrows to the desired plugIn and hit enter on
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> and it loads to the selected track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, while arrowed to the track with the loaded plug, tab and you'll
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> various recording options.
>>>>>> Set monitor to Normal with your arrow keys, so you can hear the synth
>>>>>> play.
>>>>>> Be sure to hit enter to keep your settings.
>>>>>> I can't tell you what to set as the recording source, since I've
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> used the virtual keyboard, and have no idea how to set up a synth to
>>>>>> play from virtual keyboard.
>>>>>> Sorry,
>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/26/2013 7:52 PM, Crystal Dennis wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi again!  I seriously need some help, so hopefully I came to the
>>>>>>> right place :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been using reaper for awhile, and I recently wanted to start
>>>>>>> composing my own music tracks with instrument sinths.  I'm using the
>>>>>>> virtual keyboard, and have downloaded a few sinth sets but...I have
>>>>>>> had this same problem with all of them:  They haven't been playing
>>>>>>> when I load the track into reaper!  Here's what I've been doing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Installing the software (I've tried Eastwest and Miroslave
>>>>>>> Filharmonic with the same results for both - no audio)
>>>>>>> - Then I've tinkered with my audio device settings with no results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I am very, very new with dealing with sinths, so my questions
>>>>>>> are:
>>>>>>>    Do I need some new software that reaper doesn't have?  I don't
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> any Aceo drivers, could that be why?  or does the Virtual Keyboard
>>>>>>> just not work for all plugins...I've tried spicy guitar also and it
>>>>>>> doesn't play either.  Sound magics VSTs have worked for me, but
>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> about it really.  There's something that says 32 Out and 8 Out next
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> some of the files, what does that mean?  Are there any other
>>>>>>> orchestra
>>>>>>> sinth packs that work better with Reaper I could try out?  I really
>>>>>>> just want to get something working because right now I have a ton of
>>>>>>> GB taken up with nothing to show for it.  So mainly I'm a noob with
>>>>>>> sinths who needs help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for this novel!  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crystal
>>>>>>>
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