[RWP] Running 32 bit plugs in Win7 64 with Reaper 64?

Fri Dec 27 15:01:09 EST 2013

I guess I'm lucky with this cheap Acer Win7 desktop; that I somehow 
configured the RealTech HD Audio Manager not to put up a notice every 
time I plug something in or unplug something.
I don't even remember where I made the settings so it ignores plugging 
and unplugging.
I imagine though, that it too would not like a shorted jack; but it's 
been such an uncomplaining computer it might not put up the fuss the I7 
music computer did.
I'm only deducing from the evidence of a shorted out jack on the music 
computer, and its audio cable that was snagged by something behind the 
desk until it stretched so far that it broke.
I won't blame it on my daughter's cute little bulldog, I don't think 
she'd go exploring behind my desk.

Apparently shorting the audio jack cause anything even remotely related 
to RealTech to lose its settings.
Also, because of the existing short; the Xp's Realtech Audio Manager now 
displays a plugged/unplugged alert that can't be satisfied every time I 
boot, and I need to be super quick to shut down the RealTech process 
with Windows Task Manager.
Such a nuisance, because I can't get to that shorted jack to repair it.
It's back behind a panel; on a circuit board;  deep inside the plastic 
front bezel.
I tried to unplug its cable from the motherboard, in a space that was 
too small for my hands, and managed at the same time to also unplug the 
plugs for the power button and reset button.
  There are several rows of terminals just where the power button and 
reset button might go, no way to tell which is the right one, so now I 
need to find a schematic for the mother board; and take the computer 
across the road to the tekkies at our local Harley's
Those guys are very skilled, and will get the power and reset plugs back 
onto the correct terminals.
I don't even care about those flimsy front audio jacks anyway, 
unplugging them would be a fix.
I can use the rear audio jack for speech.
Just in case I can't have the music computer fixed soon, can you guys 
please tell me the name of the Sapphire Pro soundcard that I hear, 
that's very clear with pro-quality?
I've been impressed by recordings I've heard made with it.
I should set up this AMD Acer as a backup music computer.
By the way, it has a couple of USB 3 jacks, if anyone ever made good 
quality USB 3 soundcards.
Thanks,
Indi

On 12/22/2013 10:26 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Yes, windows 7 does care about audio jacks being plugged in , depending
> on the sound card of course.  In fact, it's probably simply a sound card
> behavior, but it is a increasing trend, now that we have smart jacks,
> whether we want or need them or not. .
> When I first got my  64-bit system, it was set up for 5.1 audio output,
> and I didn't know it.  I plugged one cable in to the front jack, to port
> eloquence audio, and no signal was sent out.  I had a hell of a time
> getting speech.  Finally, I figured out that the sound card refused to
> send audio out the front pair, because I didn't also plug something into
> the back pair, etc.  In other words, if you aren't going to plug in all
> the speakers required for the current configuration, we deem that to be
> inappropriate, and none of them will work.   In my opinion, that kind of
> crap doesn't add anything to my party, just creates annoying hassles and
> disception.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew" <amockery at gmail.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Running 32 bit plugs in Win7 64 with Reaper 64?
>
>
>> Win7 absolutely does care if you take the cable out. Or to be more
>> accurate, it is set up for "jack detection," which you can turn on or
>> off in the stupid proprietary control panel applet for whatever
>> horrifying onboard chip you have.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Running 32 bit plugs in Win7 64 with Reaper 64?
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, Scott.
>>> I can't give up Waves Diamond and other classic 32 bit plug bundles,
>>> and I sure can't afford to buy all new 64 bit versions.
>>> The I7 computer was a totally stable beast until this accident where
>>> something unaccountable behind my desk tore a 3.5mm audio cable right
>>> out of the jack, shorting out the jack and breaking the cable, which
>>> cause all kinds of chaos among any program associated with speech.
>>>
>>> Windows 7 64 doesn't care if you plug or unplug any audio cable, like
>>> my XP seems to.
>>> That makes me think the increased stability of Windows 7 64 might be
>>> worth the hassle of dealing with using old 32 bit plugs.
>>> Think I'll also add another drive just for plugs and associated data,
>>> with the operating system on its own drive.
>>> I got along fine with a single drive before; didn't think I needed
>>> more speed in processing, but now I believe a multi-drive system
>>> might also be more stable, and protect data from operating system
>>> issues.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/22/2013 1:23 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>> Yeah, it's that simple to set up. The caveat here has been that some
>>>> of them seem a bit unstable. Tbh, I don't use a massive amount of
>>>> plugs beyond the bread and butter stuff that every mixer needs. The
>>>> situation could be different with synths and the other areas of VSTs
>>>> that are unexplored territory for me.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, post back to let us know what works and what doesn't when
>>>> you try it.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 12/22/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Scott and any others who run old plugs in Windows 7 64 bit,
>>>>> I hear that Reaper has its own bridging for old 32 bit plugIns,
>>>>> similar
>>>>> to J Bridge, and all you need to do is go to preferences VST and
>>>>> type in
>>>>> the path to your folder where you keep your 32 bit plugs.
>>>>> Can running wonderful but ancient plugs under Win7 64 be that simple?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
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