[RWP] my poise question again

Goldfinga Productions goldfingas at gmail.com
Fri Aug 30 06:57:38 EDT 2013 

I really don't know that much about object navigation.
its something I am trying to learn about… I think I am missing out on a few tricks that could help me later.

NVDA is very nice, and I find my self using it more so that JAWS these days. I am still learning it though.
For what it is, it is pretty kick ass for a free screen reader

On Aug 30, 2013, at 3:22 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:

> I've not used Poise as much as you guys, but I reached all the unlabeled graphics with Window-Eyes mouse pointer, similar to jaws PC cursor, but I wouldn't rule NVDA out.
> It also has some really powerful tools at its number pad.
> It's a shame your HSC sets won't work in NVDA, but I'll bet it can get at those controls also, once you explore deeply in its object navigation.
> The NVDA key plus numPad enter is particularly powerful, waking up everything when enter or mouse left clicking does nothing.
> 
> Off this particular topic, but encourageing, I was able to configure Novation Nocturne Automap to Reaper's control surface by myself with NVDA, and it was a royal pain to do with Window-Eyes; requiring some sighted help; and NVDA easily reads the AutoMap invisible screen overlays that Window-Eyes can't see at all.
> I don't even consider computing  without NVDA any more.
> When you provide these hints how to reach controls with jaws PC cursor, I save those notes to try similar moves in NVDA, or jaws or Wineyes; if required.
> Whatever tool it takes to get the job done, right?
> Indi
> 
> 
> On 8/30/2013 12:02 AM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:
>> I got it working. And it works with the auto hot key script. My problem was that I was working with in the NVDA environment instead of the jaws environment. I was able to assign a kick drum to pad one. I'm going to try to build an entire kit now. I don't know how we will be able to access layers, or key ranges. Maybe the developer of the auto hot key scripts will add some more keystrokes to a couple more of the buttons and we will be good to go. This is very promising, and I am super excited that this is finally working out.
>> I appreciate everyone for the help that they have given me with this, and will continue to give. I feel like this community is getting things done.
>> 
>> This is what a list is all about.
>> Thanks again for the help.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:35 PM, "T.Reid" <treid99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, that's my bad. I shouldn't have said tab. I just went back in and did it
>>> without my HSC spots. Here's what you do...
>>> BTW I am running 1-1-50-57
>>> 
>>> Insert the virtual instrument
>>> From the bridged window, invoke the Jaws cursor and route to PC
>>> Go back to the PC cursor mode
>>> Use your down arrow a few time. If you don't hear any of the labels, alt tab
>>> away from the Poise window and then come back to Poise
>>> Try down arrowing.
>>> 
>>> Now you might hear show browser button, pitch button...
>>> At each of these buttons if you simulate a right mouse click and sometimes
>>> left mouse click you will get a menu.
>>> 
>>> When you get to the pads,  do the right click and you will see all of the
>>> awesome options available.
>>> 
>>> This sounds complicated, but when you see all that is almost easily at your
>>> fingertips you will understand why I said it's very close to being an
>>> accessible app for blind folks.
>>> 
>>> C'mon manI want to see you get this working.
>>> 
>>> t
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>>> Productions
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:55 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] my poise question again
>>> 
>>> When I tab, I eventually get to a place where I hear nothing. Kind of like a
>>> dead zone.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, "T.Reid" <treid99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Using Jaws I was able to access the pads and other controls. I was
>>>> able to tab through controls, not in any real order. When landing on
>>>> the control using the Jaws cursor I could right click and access the
>>>> menus. That was the case on other controls too.
>>>> 
>>>> My main way of using this is through a quick HSC set  that I created
>>>> to move to each pad and right click. I think Indigo uses NVDA so it's
>>>> definitely doable.
>>>> 
>>>> From my perspective, Shannon is really close to making this a very
>>>> accessible product. That is from a user perspective not in terms of
>>>> the amount of coding that needs to take place.
>>>> You never said if you have tried loading a sample kit. I think this
>>>> would be helpful even in helping you to navigate the screen and
>>>> figuring out the best method for interacting.
>>>> 
>>>> t
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> children with eye cancer by turning 1 penny into $$$, 1 push up at a
>>>> time!
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>>>> Productions
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:53 PM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] my poise question again
>>>> 
>>>> I'm using NVDA, so I'm not able to see the pad even though he labeled
>>> them.
>>>> How are you doing that?
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:19 PM, "T.Reid" <treid99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> How are you first selecting a pad?  Are you using scripts or just the
>>>>> version that Shannon put out where the pads are labeled.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either way when you are on a pad you want to invoke a right mouse
>>>>> click. I haven't tried the AHK script but the HSC spot that I created
>>>>> I auto invoke a right mouse click to drop down the menu.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then I use the available paste menu.
>>>>> 
>>>>> t
>>>>> 
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>>>>> children with eye cancer by turning 1 penny into $$$, 1 push up at a
>>>>> time!
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>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>>>>> Productions
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:48 PM
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] my poise question again
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been speaking with the developer, and I don't know if that's
>>>>> going to work. I've tried it and it did not work on this end. Are you
>>>>> using the mouse to click on the pad to paste it? If so, I can't seem
>>>>> to get that to work either.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think the plug-in allows control V to be passed through to it
>>>>> that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:58 PM, "T.Reid" <treid99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure what control L does.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once the sample is pasted onto the drum pad, then you should be able
>>>>>> to press the key  on your midi keyboard that triggers the pad. You
>>>>>> will hear the sample. Of course, make sure your track in Reaper is
>>>>> armed...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you been able to load a sample kit and play?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If so, while the sample kit is loaded go to pad 9 which more than
>>>>>> likely is empty. Paste a sample there and see if it works. Just
>>>>>> don't save
>>>>> the kit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> #PennyPushUps Begins September 1 - September 30, 2013 Supporting
>>>>>> children with eye cancer by turning 1 penny into $$$, 1 push up at a
>>>>>> time!
>>>>>> www.pennypushups.org
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>>>>>> Productions
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:20 PM
>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] my poise question again
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried that, and the sample didn't play when I hit control L after
>>> that.
>>>>>> I wonder what's going on on my end. I'm pasting wave files as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:58 PM, "T.Reid" <treid99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The way I do this is:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a separate Windows Explorer window, I navigate to the folder
>>>>>>> containing my samples (The browser in Poise is not accessible) I
>>>>>>> copy my desired file to the clipboard Switching back to Poise:
>>>>>>> I navigate to the  desired drum pad and from the menu choose paste
>>>>>>> Boom!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, let those golden Fingers go to work! Let me know if that helps!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>> children with eye cancer by turning 1 penny into $$$, 1 push up at
>>>>>>> a time!
>>>>>>> www.pennypushups.org
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>>>>>>> Productions
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:02 PM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] my poise question again
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello list. I don't know if no one knows how to do this, or maybe
>>>>>>> my message didn't get through.
>>>>>>> Has anyone had any success loading samples into poise?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was talking to Shannon just yesterday about a possible solution,
>>>>>>> and it didn't work. We are troubleshooting still trying to find
>>>>>>> ways to fix some of the accessibility.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So if anyone has had any luck loading samples into poise, please
>>>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>> 
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