[RWP] poise

Sun Aug 11 15:21:36 EDT 2013

I just looked in the sfz spec and you can generate random values for many different parameters, tuning, region playback, etc.

So they don't call it round robin but I think you can simulate this sort of behavior in the sfz format.

You can certainly make velocity layers as deep as you like to trigger multiple samples.

And polyphony goes all the way to 255 so you won't ever run out of notes and re-trigger.

Sfz will load in to ram, or disk stream.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin Reeves 
  To: Reapers Without Peepers 
  Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [RWP] poise

  Round robin plays a completely different sample. This way, you can have 3 or 4 snare hits that trigger randomly, giving the kit a more realistic sound.

  Kevin

  On 8/11/2013 2:35 PM, Chris Belle wrote:

    Is round robbin triggering an entirely different sample, or a repeat of the same sample without re-triggering it?

    I have played with the envelope generators for the tails of samples not to cut off so snares and such sound more natural, and also assigned snares to different keys with slightly altered samples to make drums sound more realistic.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kevin Reeves 
      To: Reapers Without Peepers 
      Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:20 PM
      Subject: Re: [RWP] poise

      Session drummer 3 can do Round Robbin, so either the sfz spec itself has 
      that capability, or session drummer itself modifies the spec to do this.

      Some of the higher end kits that you can buy such as the Neal Peart kit 
      takes advantage of this.

      Kevin
      On 8/10/2013 8:56 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
      > Can SFZ do round robin? I've got a few really well sampled kits
      > that're in Kontakt format, but the wav files are unprotected and there
      > for the taking. Wondering whether to rebuild the kits in SFZ or Poise.
      > Round robin will probably be the thing that swings me one way or the
      > other seeing as I'm predominantly a metal player and machine gunning
      > kicks or snares do not a happy me make.
      >
      > Cheers
      >
      > Scott
      >
      > On 8/11/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
      >> Hey, ask for the ahk file someone posted a while back which has the few
      >> spots you'll need for loading and changing basic parameters like mode and
      >> quality and polyphony and such, most pertain to soundfonts so you'll mainly
      >> just need the load button.
      >>
      >> I did one for sonar which was redundant since hsc and ct already support it
      >> for that daw, but I was practicing with my coding skills and wanted to play
      >> about with it, it won't work for reaper since reaper displays the vst
      >> windows differently, what a shame.
      >>
      >> But once you learn some sfz basics and find that one spot to load files,
      >> you're golden as they say.
      >>
      >> There are no pads, but in your opcode references you can assign any midi
      >> keys you like.
      >>
      >> It's really great.
      >>
      >>
      >>    ----- Original Message -----
      >>    From: Goldfinga Productions
      >>    To: Reapers Without Peepers
      >>    Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:02 PM
      >>    Subject: Re: [RWP] poise
      >>
      >>
      >>    Ok, and loading sounds is done how? Let me play with it and see if it
      >> works for me.
      >>
      >>
      >>    On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:50 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
      >>
      >>    > Vst.
      >>    >
      >>    > ----- Original Message -----
      >>    > From: Goldfinga Productions
      >>    > To: Reapers Without Peepers
      >>    > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:33 PM
      >>    > Subject: Re: [RWP] poise
      >>    >
      >>    > I believe I have it, I don't know how you would go about using it and
      >> reaper though. I guess you have to use the standalone version, and rewire it
      >> through reaper?
      >>    > What's the best way to harness SFV and reaper together?
      >>    >
      >>    > On Aug 10, 2013, at 5:52 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
      >> wrote:
      >>    >
      >>    > > Hey you guys don't forget about sfz while we're waiting for shannon to
      >> help, it's already very accessible, learn a few opcodes and you can play
      >> samples just the way you like.
      >>    > >
      >>    > > There are only about 8 controls on the interface that need to be
      >> spotted and I think someone else has already done done an ahk for it, I did
      >> one for sonar,
      >>    > > but jsonar and ct already support it.
      >>    > >
      >>    > > I like sfz for instance if I want to assign several keys so I can do a
      >> snare roll convincingly, I can,
      >>    > > or layer multiple samples on one key, or have a high-hat pinch off
      >> with an off_by group value I can, it's really the bomb.
      >>    > >
      >>    > > I've been constructing instruments with it for years.
      >>    > > And it's free.
      >>    > >
      >>    > >
      >>    > >
      >>    > >
      >>    > > ----- Original Message -----
      >>    > > From: Goldfinga Productions
      >>    > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
      >>    > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:45 AM
      >>    > > Subject: Re: [RWP] poise
      >>    > >
      >>    > > And to add to what Kevin said,poise Will allow you to group paths
      >> together so not only can you have eight litters per pad, but you can trigger
      >> multiple pads at once. you can also do that with sonar and the matrix. But
      >> it's a really cool feature to have.
      >>    > > They're both really cool sample players. But I would prefer to use
      >> poise
      >>    > >
      >>    > > I hope Shannon is able to do something with it. I think it's going to
      >> unlock a lot of potential, at least in my studio.
      >>    > >
      >>    > >
      >>    > > On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:54 AM, Kevin Reeves <lists at kevinreeves.net>
      >> wrote:
      >>    > >
      >>    > > > For the record, poise and matrix view are complete apples and
      >> oranges.
      >>    > > >
      >>    > > > Poise lets you put 8 layers of drums on each pad, allow for round
      >> robbin sample playback, pan, env, volume, etc.
      >>    > > >
      >>    > > > Matrix view just lets you trigger samples and other items in Sonar.
      >>    > > >
      >>    > > > While this is powerful in and of itself, poise gives you that MPC
      >> like environment you need for creating beats.
      >>    > > >
      >>    > > > Hope this helps.
      >>    > > >
      >>    > > > Kevin
      >>    > > >
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