[RWP] poise

[Scott Chesworth]

Not saying this to discourage David or put words into Shannons mouth
at all, but it seems like the next big step forward for Poise
accessibility would be being able to cycle through the controls that
Shannon has labeled as part of the tab order. That, or doing whatever
would need to be done to expose them to object navigation to cut down
on the amount of mousing around. Strikes me that a programmer is what
he'd need right now just to impart the knowledge of a tried and tested
method to get that to happen. A better understanding of screen readers
and how we roll will no doubt be useful further down the line if he
needs to tweak or refine, but it's probably jumping the gun to get
bogged down in that now.

Is there anyone in touch with fellow Aussies who crunch code for
breakfast, maybe someone who's written NVDA addons or the like?
There's the NVDA developers themselves in Brisbane of course, but
while their intent is good, I should imagine they're both pretty busy
boys. Shannon, if you think a bit of time on the phone or Skype with a
fellow coder could decrease the workload, let us know and I'll happily
make the introductions with Jamie (one of the lead developers of
NVDA).

Scott

On 8/4/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
> If Shannon is okay with that, that would be wonderful! We need to get him as
> much information about the screen readers as possible so that he knows what
> he's working with. Like I said yesterday, it makes it a lot easier for a
> programmer if they understand what their programming for.
>
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 9:28 PM, "David P Shortland" <dragamilov at comcen.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi & Greetings from The Sunshine State...
>>
>> I was thinking of giving Shannon a ring, since he is in the same country
>> as myself, although around 2000 kilometers to the south in COLD
>> Melbourne...*smile*
>>
>> I could talk with him directly, and although I now use System Access, I
>> have used JAWS and I also have NVDA installed...
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Goldfinga Productions
>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 10:29 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] poise
>>
>> I think what Shannon also needs is a tutorial on NVDA or something like
>> that. I think some of the problem when we talk to the developers is that
>> we forget that they don't know how to use our software. I think that would
>> probably help them to understand how to help us better if they can speak
>> our language.
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:50 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> YOu know what Shannon, if your listening in, autohotkey may be a perfect
>>> helper tool for this app.
>>>
>>> It allows mouse movement and macro actions and menus and hotkeys and
>>> hotstrings to be created, like if you needed to click on a pad with a
>>> hotkey with the mouse you could do it, and it activates that script by
>>> the window title.
>>>
>>> I did sessiondrummer 3 with this thing and it's great, and non
>>> screenreader dependant, even sighted folks really dig this utility, it
>>> wasn't made for us, but it sure has helped us a lot.
>>>
>>> The macro recorder doesn't work well with screen-readers,
>>> so I've had to hand code stuff, but it's easy for a sighted person to
>>> record macro actions in a hurry.
>>>
>>> This might be easier than trying to re-design the whole interface for
>>> just a few people.
>>>
>>> I know as the fledgling programmer I am how much that's asking,
>>> once you've used a certain tool to make a synth, and then having to start
>>> from scratch to make it accessible.
>>>
>>> Autohotkey could really be a good bridging utility.
>>>
>>> Atleast for now.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: [RWP] poise
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried using OCR to see if we can at least click on certain
>>> things? I am running jaws for Windows 14. Has anyone had any luck using
>>> OCR and loading sounds onto pads?
>>> I'm just trying to see if I can get the most out of this update until the
>>> next version is available.
>>> I do believe Shannon is going to complete the work at some point, he is
>>> just busy with other projects at the moment. That is totally
>>> understandable. I'm just trying to see if I can poke around and
>>> accidentally make something happen that could hold us over until the next
>>> version comes. I'm also poking around to see if there's any more
>>> information that I can give him that might help him figure out exactly
>>> what we need.
>>>
>>>
>>> GF
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