[RWP] For Steve: Always On Top and Run In Dedicated Process

[Indigo]

Hi Steve,
Here's my experience with a third party plug, RayBlaster, 64; a 
definitely nice demo, which I installed and checked out with NVDA, in 
Windows 7 64 bits.
In the FX Routing view; with In Dedicated Process plus Always on top; I 
definitely could; by doing NVDA's equivalent of routing to PC cursor, or 
whatever it is called in Jaws that gets focus onto the number pad; I 
left clicked on the line: Tone Two RayBlaster Demo Bridged, May Be in 
Top Level Window, Click on UI.
Then I could alt+tab between the track view and that bridged window 
containing  RayBlaster.
If this is required to give you the dedicated window you need to create 
HSC or AHK scripts, then that's the solution.
That dedicated window was lost each time; as soon as I hit escape to go 
back to track view, because you can't arm a track, you can't start 
record, or anything else to do with Reaper tracks while in FX Routing, 
so far as I can tell; those can only be done from track view.

Also, with the dedicated window open; you can't get at any of the usual 
buttons available in FX Routing, like Add, to add an effect plug, or 
Param; to get at the plug's parameters, like if you want to assign them 
to a control surface with midi learn.
You only need to hit escape to dismiss the dedicated window and go back 
to track view, then hit F to return to a normal FX Routing view, with 
Add, Param, etcetera, so you can easily have both the dedicated window 
and the usual FX Routing view.
Each time, After returning to FX routing I needed to again left click on 
that line about bridged plug may be in top level window, click on UI; to 
get the dedicated window to return when I alt+tab.
I think Genluca Apollo and his friends in Italy created Reaper Auto Hot 
Key scripts for NI Kontakt without doing this, though, so maybe there's 
another method?
Indi

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On 4/22/2013 12:25 PM, Steve Spamer wrote:
> Hi Indi and thanks for your efforts.  you're definitely missing something
> there, as the whole reason for in dedicated process per plugin is to allow
> the plug to have its own window.  When you've inserted the plug, in the FX
> window you can tab over to "UI", and double left click it with the numpad
> cursor, then the plug should open in that dedicated window.
>
> You said there's no reason to bridge a 32 plug in a 32 bit DAW, well I agree
> with you from a sighted point of view, but we need a window where HSC or AHK
> can focus on...without that, the plugs window is only about  2 thirds of the
> FX window and  most importantly, not in focus for a screenreader...it's the
> FX window that's in focus.  Making those changes brings focus to the plug
> and not to the FX window with the plug in the background to us...but
> remember, it's not in the background for a sighted dood, it's visible on
> screen.  Cheers Steve.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: 22 April 2013 13:57
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: [RWP] For Steve: Always On Top and Run In Dedicated Process
>
> Hi Steve,
> In my XP 32 bit daw; running Window-eyes 6.1; I tried to get what you
> are finding in Windows 7 64 bit and Jaws, but just couldn't.
> I selected Always on Top in the view menu of Reaper 4.32; also selected
> In Dedicated Process in the Preferences Compatibility settings, but I
> couldn't get either Massive or Absynth 5's interface to show up when I
> tabbed.
> I did get the words Bridged PlugIn May be in Top Level Window, or words
> to that effect; to show up in Absynth's native interface, at Wineyes
> numPad; but  otherwise Absynth's interface looked the same.
> When I pressed tab I just heard Window-Eyes version 6.1, same as always.
> Also, I didn't get either Massive or Absynth's parameters or value edit
> boxes to show up at the arrow keys, as is the case with the bundled
> Reaper plugs.
> Just to learn what would happen, I tried other choices in Compatibility,
> In Separate Process; also In Native Interface, Not Bridged, and results
> were the same.
> I got no advantage from tabbing,and in the choice In Dedicated Process I
> at first couldn't access Massive or Absynth's s usual interface; at
> Wineyes numPad;  but pressed escape and then F to return to FX Routing;
> and eventually got the usual Massive or Absynth interface,which is
> practically empty anyway, since it's all bit map imagery.
> I returned to the default Compatibility setting, which is I think
> Auto-select; but kept Always on top, which didn't seem to either hurt or
> help anything.
>
> I don't think I'm going to be of any assistance to your efforts, since
> bridging 32 bit plugs doesn't make much sense in 32 bit XP; and; as I
> indicated; Wineyes won't run 64 bit Reaper along with ReaAccess.
> I could have tried NVDA in XP; but it wouldn't have proved much; since
> until I learn how to do it I can't get anything from plug interfaces at
> the numPad with NVDA.
>
> Maybe Always on Top; or In Dedicated Process only matters to Jaws, I
> don't know until I install Jaws on 64 bit Windows and try it.
> Sorry,
> Indi
>
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