[RWP] FW: Reapers plug window always on top?

Fri Apr 19 06:06:34 EDT 2013

Hi Scott, yes got confirmation of this, but there's definitly some
differences between a plug opening bridged and natively, when using in
dedicated process per plugin.  I'm going to confirm as much as I can later
today with the plugs I have, trouble is I don't have a lot of 64 bit plugs
to try, so I'll nail things down with the ones I have.  When using a 32 bit
plug in Reaper 64 , that's definitly the case, when it's 64 bit in 64 bit
Reaper, I'm positive it's still the case, but I think the window is rendered
slightly different...the same goes with 32 and 32 Reaper.

I'm pretty new to Reaper, so does anyone know when the compatibility options
were introduced?  I was on with another list member last night and he was
using V3...and there was no compatibility options in that version, he could
not find them, but in V4.XXX of course there is.  I'll get my experiences
down and clarify with some eye balls, then contact Reaper support and see if
they can confirm things.  I can see a bit and with iZotope, which is a dark
plug, it 100% stays on top, same goes for Omnisphere, cheers Steve.
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-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
Sent: 19 April 2013 02:57
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] FW: Reapers plug window always on top?

Steve,

Just a thought, but have you gotten visual varification of this
happening? Reason I ask is that, if it's screwing with things
visually, it's the type of thing that would affect more than just
accessibility, so chances are higher of getting it acknowledged and
fixed in one shot.

Scott

On 4/19/13, Jim Snowbarger <Snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
> No, the problem he is referring to is that, if you open a plug that way,
in
>
> a dedicated process, and then alt tab away to another application, you
will
>
> find that application is only partially visible.  You aren't even focused
in
>
> reaper anymore.  But, the camned plug stays on top, obscuring, or
partially
>
> obscuring all other windows, even outside of reaper.
> Not a very compliant citizen.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] FW: Reapers plug window always on top?
>
>
>> Well, in Reaper 32 bit; with Wineyes, Jaws, and NVDA; I've always assumed
>>
>> we have 2 views; the track view with the tracks, of course, and the
>> effects routing view; where I load new effects, find the effects
>> parameters at the tab key and edit boxes at the arrow keys; plus I get
the
>>
>> native interface of the VST plug in effects routing view.
>> When my wife looks at the monitor while I'm trying to find buttons and
>> such on a plugs interface; she clicks on the same coordinates with her
>> physical mouse as I do with Wineyes numberPad mouse.
>> I can't really do much locating of graphical buttons with NVDA, so rely
on
>>
>> Wineyes for that.
>> I believe I could probably find graphical buttons with Jaws also; since
>> its PC cursor and jaws cursor at the numPad are very similar to what
>> Wineyes sees there.
>> I just haven't had enough experience with it to make it quick for me.
>> This is all true with ReaAccess loaded,of course.
>> When my sighted son runs Reaper, without ReaAccess, he sees only a single
>>
>> vieww, with tracks and the plugin's interface on the same screen, and has
>>
>> no idea what I'm talking about when I refer to track view or effects
>> routing view.
>> Maybe this is what you are referring to when you say that a plug's screen
>>
>> is always on top?
>> ReaAccess is splitting the views into track and effects view for me.
>> In 64 bit Reaper, with NVDA; I get those same track and effects views.
>> No version of Window-Eyes that I've tried has run any version of 64 bit
>> Reaper so far, so can't speak about that.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 4/18/2013 6:43 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Steve Spamer [mailto:steve at crustysocks.com]
>>> Sent: 17 April 2013 12:15
>>> To: 'Reapers Without Peepers'; 'midimag at midimag.org'
>>> Subject: Reapers plug window always on top?
>>>
>>> Hi, sorry for the cross posting. For all users of Reaper, does anyone
>>> know...or even aware, that whenever a plug is open when using the "in
>>> dedicated process per plugin" option in the compatibility preferences,
>>> that
>>> window actually stays on top of every other window, no matter what?
This
>>>
>>> is
>>> a necessary step to take for any accessibility solution, as the
>>> screenreader
>>> needs to be able to access the window, without it the window seems to
>>> float
>>> in the Reaper UI.
>>>
>>> Now I'm trying to find out if there's any other configuration that can
>>> be
>>> done to stop this window taking over everything.  It seems odd, as if a
>>> sighted user had it set up this way, they couldn't use anything else
>>> without
>>> shutting that window down and reopening it all of the time, they
wouldn't
>>>
>>> be
>>> able to see any other window.  So, anyone any ideas?  This is
>>> interfereing
>>> with Jaws and it's not really efficient to open and reopen all of the
>>> time,
>>> but perhaps it's going to be a necessary evil of using plugs with
>>> Reaper.
>>> I'm not that up on Reaper and could very easily be way off here, so if
>>> there's more experienced users out there, please give me your input.
>>> BTW, I
>>> posted on the Cockos forum, but not heard anything, cheers Steve.
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