[RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work in the plug in windows!!please help!!

Thu Sep 27 12:49:40 EDT 2012

Hi Gianluca,
  I'll give it a try.
Thanks,
Indigo L

On 9/27/2012 4:28 AM, Gianluca Apollaro wrote:
> Hi Indigo,
> I think the file you're missing is reaper-KB.ini. So try to install a 32
> bit version of Reaper in Windows 7 64; and replace the 64 bit plugins
> folder and reaper-KB.ini with the ones from the working 32 bit version.
> hth,
> Gianluca from Italy
> SkypeID: gianluca8815
>
>
> Il 24/09/2012 13:08, Indigo ha scritto:
>> I don't have Reaper on this 64 bit machine right now.
>> I'm still experimenting with getting a 32 bit version of Reaper to
>> work with Window-Eyes in 64 bit windows.
>> Someone told me that, in addition to the working 32 bit Reaper plugIns
>> folder I needed to paste in another 32 bit file, but, dern it, I
>> mislaid that email, so don't know what Reaper 32 bit file he referred to.
>> He didn't say that it would guarantee that Wineyes could run Reaper
>> plus ReaAccess on 64 bits Windows, just a possible clue.
>>
>> In XP 32; where I actually use Reaper, I have no problems getting the
>> recordings options menu to display with a single press of your ctrl+up
>> arrow work Around.
>> My only real Reaper issue so far has been quantization, and setting
>> project grid from the inline midi edit view.
>> I've never fully worked that out.
>>
>> It really doesn't worry me though if Reaper and ReaAccess have a few
>> lackings in places.
>> I'll just pop a midi file that needs quantizing into some version of
>> Sonar and quantize it in a second, then bring it back into Reaper to
>> continue working.
>> It's just like switching to the best screenreader for the purpose at
>> any given moment.
>> I will look at System Access soon.
>> If it will see anything that Window-Eyes, Jaws and NVDA can't see on a
>> screen, it's worth its cost.
>> Regards,
>> Indigo L
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2012 5:54 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>> the shortcut is indeed Shift+P , works well in win7 64.
>>> make sure you're positioned on the right track where the plugs are
>>> patched.
>>>
>>> have you solved the strange issue of reaper showing the wrong track's
>>> settings when navigating the audio input/output and recording mode
>>> menus?
>>> cheers
>>> Roy.
>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work
>>> in the plug in windows!!please help!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Roy,
>>>> Yes, I just went to google and did a search, using NVDA; and aligning
>>>> the up/down arrows and then arrowing left/right to confirm that you
>>>> are on the button works better than relying on the tab key.
>>>> What I hear from the tab key is often so different from what the
>>>> arrows say that it is confusing to know if I'm on the correct link, by
>>>> relying on what the tab key says.
>>>> I think neither Jaws or Window-Eyes ever have this glitch of mis
>>>> alignment between arrows and tab key.
>>>> Even with its peculiarities, I still love NVDA, though.
>>>> I'm still annoyed that I can't get a quick screen review at the numPad
>>>> with NVDA, but for most actions in Reaper, it presentss no problems at
>>>> all.
>>>> I can now enable a midi source, or other routine actions, as quickly
>>>> in NVDA as with Wineyes.
>>>> My habit of not studying boring manuals means I often devise my own
>>>> work arounds, when there are already shortcuts for the purpose.
>>>> For instance, when I type in google search terms in Wineyes, and hit
>>>> enter, I press the S key repeatedly to jump to to the list with 10 or
>>>> more links, and in NVDA, I press the D key 3 times to jump to the
>>>> first clickable link in that list.
>>>> Maybe there's a single shortcut in either screenreader to jump to the
>>>> first clickable link, but these are my work arounds.
>>>> You make System Access sseem very appealing.
>>>> I intend to try it, but I'm not aware of anything I can't find in
>>>> Reaper already with Wineyes.
>>>> I'm used to looking at native plug interfaces in the effects routing
>>>> window, with varrious Window-Eyes numPad navigation shortcuts, and
>>>> locating icons for presets, even in mostly graphical interfaces.
>>>> How well does System Access compare at finding things when
>>>> encountering almost non speaking graphical plugIn interfaces?
>>>> This is where I really miss a good numPad screen review in NVDA, and
>>>> so far, haven't found qwerty shortcuts that serve that same purpose
>>>> for examining native plug interfaces in Reaper.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, by the way, I've somehow misplaced the Reaper shortcut to open the
>>>> long parameters list from the track view, or I'm experiencing a glitch.
>>>> I thought it was shift+P, which didn't work last time I tried it in
>>>> Windows 7 64 and Reaper 4.25..
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Indigo L
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/22/2012 12:23 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>> another method to know you're aligned on a button in a web page using
>>>>> nvda is , press left/right arrows to see if they navigate the button's
>>>>> text by character.
>>>>> if not , CTRL+left/right arrows will move to it.
>>>>> thanks a bunch
>>>>> Roy.
>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work in
>>>>> the plug in windows!!please help!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Roy,
>>>>>> I don't have Reaper on this Win7 64 computer right now, to test
>>>>>> routing the mouse to a button with the NVDAKey+numpad Slash (/)
>>>>>> > key , then clicking it with just the numpad slash (/) key, but that
>>>>>> procedure hasn't always worked for me.
>>>>>> To test that method, I just ran GoldWave, arrowed to its file
>>>>>> menu, to
>>>>>> its open selection, pressed the NVDAKey+slash combination of keys;
>>>>>> then clicked with slash; and got an error message.
>>>>>> When I arrowed to file open, then used the other method of moving to
>>>>>> focus with NVDAKey+the numpad plus key, then clicked with NVDAKey the
>>>>>> numpad enter key, the expected open dialog appeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, I also could have got open dialog by simply pressing
>>>>>> enter,
>>>>>> on the word open, or using the standard ctrl+O shortcut, I was just
>>>>>> testing the two numPad methods trying to understand how and when they
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very good advice to always tab to buttons, instead of arrowing to
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> When using NVDA, In online websites, and in Google search, I find
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the arrow keys and tab key almost never align on a button, as they do
>>>>>> in Wineyes, and it's only when I hear the button at the tab key that
>>>>>> pressing enter will activate it.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/21/2012 9:07 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>> the spacebar is for starting playback; to click on a button , tab to
>>>>>>> that button , route the mouse to it with the NVDAKey+numpad Slash
>>>>>>> (/)
>>>>>>> key , then click it with just the numpad slash (/) key.
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "trahern culver"
>>>>>>> <sound.warrior20 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:45 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] the space bar does not work in the plug in
>>>>>>> windows!!please help!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hey all the space bar does not press any of the buttons or activate
>>>>>>>> any of the check boxes in plug in windows where you change the
>>>>>>>> settings when i press the space bar in the plug ins window it just
>>>>>>>> plays the track as if i was in the mane track view please can some
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> help me with this problem? i'm running windows7 64bit the latest
>>>>>>>> version of reaper 64bit and the latest versions of nvda and
>>>>>>>> reaaccess.
>>>>>>>> your help with this problem would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>>> trahern.
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