[RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work in the plug in windows!!please help!!

Thu Sep 27 04:28:46 EDT 2012

Hi Indigo,
I think the file you're missing is reaper-KB.ini. So try to install a 32 
bit version of Reaper in Windows 7 64; and replace the 64 bit plugins 
folder and reaper-KB.ini with the ones from the working 32 bit version.
hth,
Gianluca from Italy
SkypeID: gianluca8815

Il 24/09/2012 13:08, Indigo ha scritto:
> I don't have Reaper on this 64 bit machine right now.
> I'm still experimenting with getting a 32 bit version of Reaper to 
> work with Window-Eyes in 64 bit windows.
> Someone told me that, in addition to the working 32 bit Reaper plugIns 
> folder I needed to paste in another 32 bit file, but, dern it, I 
> mislaid that email, so don't know what Reaper 32 bit file he referred to.
> He didn't say that it would guarantee that Wineyes could run Reaper 
> plus ReaAccess on 64 bits Windows, just a possible clue.
>
> In XP 32; where I actually use Reaper, I have no problems getting the 
> recordings options menu to display with a single press of your ctrl+up 
> arrow work Around.
> My only real Reaper issue so far has been quantization, and setting 
> project grid from the inline midi edit view.
> I've never fully worked that out.
>
> It really doesn't worry me though if Reaper and ReaAccess have a few 
> lackings in places.
> I'll just pop a midi file that needs quantizing into some version of 
> Sonar and quantize it in a second, then bring it back into Reaper to 
> continue working.
> It's just like switching to the best screenreader for the purpose at 
> any given moment.
> I will look at System Access soon.
> If it will see anything that Window-Eyes, Jaws and NVDA can't see on a 
> screen, it's worth its cost.
> Regards,
> Indigo L
>
>
> On 9/22/2012 5:54 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>> the shortcut is indeed Shift+P , works well in win7 64.
>> make sure you're positioned on the right track where the plugs are 
>> patched.
>>
>> have you solved the strange issue of reaper showing the wrong track's
>> settings when navigating the audio input/output and recording mode 
>> menus?
>> cheers
>> Roy.
>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work
>> in the plug in windows!!please help!!
>>
>>
>>> Hi Roy,
>>> Yes, I just went to google and did a search, using NVDA; and aligning
>>> the up/down arrows and then arrowing left/right to confirm that you
>>> are on the button works better than relying on the tab key.
>>> What I hear from the tab key is often so different from what the
>>> arrows say that it is confusing to know if I'm on the correct link, by
>>> relying on what the tab key says.
>>> I think neither Jaws or Window-Eyes ever have this glitch of mis
>>> alignment between arrows and tab key.
>>> Even with its peculiarities, I still love NVDA, though.
>>> I'm still annoyed that I can't get a quick screen review at the numPad
>>> with NVDA, but for most actions in Reaper, it presentss no problems at
>>> all.
>>> I can now enable a midi source, or other routine actions, as quickly
>>> in NVDA as with Wineyes.
>>> My habit of not studying boring manuals means I often devise my own
>>> work arounds, when there are already shortcuts for the purpose.
>>> For instance, when I type in google search terms in Wineyes, and hit
>>> enter, I press the S key repeatedly to jump to to the list with 10 or
>>> more links, and in NVDA, I press the D key 3 times to jump to the
>>> first clickable link in that list.
>>> Maybe there's a single shortcut in either screenreader to jump to the
>>> first clickable link, but these are my work arounds.
>>> You make System Access sseem very appealing.
>>> I intend to try it, but I'm not aware of anything I can't find in
>>> Reaper already with Wineyes.
>>> I'm used to looking at native plug interfaces in the effects routing
>>> window, with varrious Window-Eyes numPad navigation shortcuts, and
>>> locating icons for presets, even in mostly graphical interfaces.
>>> How well does System Access compare at finding things when
>>> encountering almost non speaking graphical plugIn interfaces?
>>> This is where I really miss a good numPad screen review in NVDA, and
>>> so far, haven't found qwerty shortcuts that serve that same purpose
>>> for examining native plug interfaces in Reaper.
>>>
>>> Oh, by the way, I've somehow misplaced the Reaper shortcut to open the
>>> long parameters list from the track view, or I'm experiencing a glitch.
>>> I thought it was shift+P, which didn't work last time I tried it in
>>> Windows 7 64 and Reaper 4.25..
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indigo L
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/22/2012 12:23 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>> another method to know you're aligned on a button in a web page using
>>>> nvda is , press left/right arrows to see if they navigate the button's
>>>> text by character.
>>>> if not , CTRL+left/right arrows will move to it.
>>>> thanks a bunch
>>>> Roy.
>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:59 PM
>>>> Subject: [RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work in
>>>> the plug in windows!!please help!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Roy,
>>>>> I don't have Reaper on this Win7 64 computer right now, to test
>>>>> routing the mouse to a button with the NVDAKey+numpad Slash (/)
>>>>> > key , then clicking it with just the numpad slash (/) key, but that
>>>>> procedure hasn't always worked for me.
>>>>> To test that method, I just ran GoldWave, arrowed to its file 
>>>>> menu, to
>>>>> its open selection, pressed the NVDAKey+slash combination of keys;
>>>>> then clicked with slash; and got an error message.
>>>>> When I arrowed to file open, then used the other method of moving to
>>>>> focus with NVDAKey+the numpad plus key, then clicked with NVDAKey the
>>>>> numpad enter key, the expected open dialog appeared.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I also could have got open dialog by simply pressing 
>>>>> enter,
>>>>> on the word open, or using the standard ctrl+O shortcut, I was just
>>>>> testing the two numPad methods trying to understand how and when they
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very good advice to always tab to buttons, instead of arrowing to 
>>>>> them.
>>>>> When using NVDA, In online websites, and in Google search, I find 
>>>>> that
>>>>> the arrow keys and tab key almost never align on a button, as they do
>>>>> in Wineyes, and it's only when I hear the button at the tab key that
>>>>> pressing enter will activate it.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/21/2012 9:07 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>> the spacebar is for starting playback; to click on a button , tab to
>>>>>> that button , route the mouse to it with the NVDAKey+numpad Slash 
>>>>>> (/)
>>>>>> key , then click it with just the numpad slash (/) key.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "trahern culver"
>>>>>> <sound.warrior20 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:45 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] the space bar does not work in the plug in
>>>>>> windows!!please help!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey all the space bar does not press any of the buttons or activate
>>>>>>> any of the check boxes in plug in windows where you change the
>>>>>>> settings when i press the space bar in the plug ins window it just
>>>>>>> plays the track as if i was in the mane track view please can some
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> help me with this problem? i'm running windows7 64bit the latest
>>>>>>> version of reaper 64bit and the latest versions of nvda and
>>>>>>> reaaccess.
>>>>>>> your help with this problem would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>> trahern.
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