[RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work in the plug in windows!!please help!!

[Indigo]

Hi Roy,
Yes, I just went to google and did a search, using NVDA; and aligning 
the up/down arrows and then arrowing left/right to confirm that you are 
on the button works better than relying on the tab key.
What I hear from the tab key is often so different from what the arrows 
say that it is confusing to know if I'm on the correct link, by relying 
on what the tab key says.
I think neither Jaws or Window-Eyes ever have this glitch of mis 
alignment between arrows and tab key.
Even with its peculiarities, I still love NVDA, though.
I'm still annoyed that I can't get a quick screen review at the numPad 
with NVDA, but for most actions in Reaper, it presentss no problems at all.
I can now enable a midi source, or other routine actions,  as quickly in 
NVDA as with Wineyes.
My habit of not studying boring  manuals  means I often devise my own 
work arounds, when there are already shortcuts for the purpose.
For instance, when I type in google search terms in Wineyes, and hit 
enter, I press the S key repeatedly to jump to to the list with 10 or 
more links, and in NVDA, I press the D key 3 times to jump to the first 
clickable link in that list.
Maybe there's a single shortcut in either screenreader to jump to the 
first clickable link, but these are my work arounds.
You make System Access sseem very appealing.
I intend to try it, but I'm not aware of anything I can't find in Reaper 
already with Wineyes.
I'm used to looking at native plug interfaces in the effects routing 
window, with varrious Window-Eyes numPad navigation shortcuts, and 
locating icons for presets, even in mostly graphical interfaces.
How well does System Access compare at finding things when encountering 
almost non speaking graphical plugIn interfaces?
This is where I really miss a good numPad screen review in NVDA, and so 
far, haven't found qwerty shortcuts that serve that same purpose for 
examining native plug interfaces in Reaper.

Oh, by the way, I've somehow misplaced the Reaper shortcut to open the 
long parameters list from the track view, or I'm experiencing a glitch.
I thought it was shift+P, which didn't work last time I tried it in 
Windows 7 64 and Reaper 4.25..

Thanks,
Indigo L


On 9/22/2012 12:23 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
> another method to know you're aligned on a button in a web page using
> nvda is , press left/right arrows to see if they navigate the button's
> text by character.
> if not , CTRL+left/right arrows will move to it.
> thanks a bunch
> Roy.
> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:59 PM
> Subject: [RWP] NVDA Peculiarities, was the space bar does not work in
> the plug in windows!!please help!!
>
>
>> Hi Roy,
>> I don't have Reaper on this Win7 64 computer right now, to test
>> routing the mouse to a button with the NVDAKey+numpad Slash (/)
>> > key , then clicking it with just the numpad slash (/) key, but that
>> procedure hasn't always worked for me.
>> To test that method, I just ran GoldWave, arrowed to its file menu, to
>> its open selection, pressed the NVDAKey+slash combination of keys;
>> then clicked with slash; and got an error message.
>> When I arrowed to file open, then used the other method of moving to
>> focus with NVDAKey+the numpad plus key, then clicked with NVDAKey the
>> numpad enter key, the expected open dialog appeared.
>>
>> Of course, I also could have got open dialog by simply pressing enter,
>> on the word open, or using the standard ctrl+O shortcut, I was just
>> testing the two numPad methods trying to understand how and when they
>> work.
>>
>> Very good advice to always tab to buttons, instead of arrowing to them.
>> When using NVDA, In online websites, and in Google search, I find that
>> the arrow keys and tab key almost never align on a button, as they do
>> in Wineyes, and it's only when I hear the button at the tab key that
>> pressing enter will activate it.
>> Thanks,
>> Indigo L
>>
>> >
>>
>> On 9/21/2012 9:07 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>> the spacebar is for starting playback; to click on a button , tab to
>>> that button , route the mouse to it with the NVDAKey+numpad Slash (/)
>>> key , then click it with just the numpad slash (/) key.
>>> best
>>> Roy.
>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "trahern culver"
>>> <sound.warrior20 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:45 AM
>>> Subject: [RWP] the space bar does not work in the plug in
>>> windows!!please help!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> hey all the space bar does not press any of the buttons or activate
>>>> any of the check boxes in plug in windows where you change the
>>>> settings when i press the space bar in the plug ins window it just
>>>> plays the track as if i was in the mane track view please can some one
>>>> help me with this problem? i'm running windows7 64bit the latest
>>>> version of reaper 64bit and the latest versions of nvda and reaaccess.
>>>> your help with this problem would be most welcome kind regards trahern.
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