[RWP] accessable efects vst's?

Tue Oct 30 23:56:06 EDT 2012

Official, I believe.

On 10/30/2012 10:40 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Is that HotSpot an official GW product? or a contribution of a private
> scripter.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>
>
>> I downloaded the latest version of hotSpot, and listened to most of
>> the mp3 tutorial.
>> I may have missed some more powerful features after I nodded off for a
>> nap, smile, but GW Micro's HotSpot really just creates a standard
>> Wineyes hot key, with a very easy to follow dialog structure, choosing
>> the type of window, the actions, the shortcut.
>> It will search for a string you enter, take a preset action, or string
>> of actions, move the mouse by groups of pixels, my home made scheme,
>> or jump to screen coordinates.
>> All these things are mostly what one can do anyway, except jump to
>> coordinates, but HotSpot seems nowhere near as powerful as AHK or HSC
>> in penetrating the inner structure of plugs.
>> It would suffice for getting a group of screen coordinates by sighted
>> help, then creating shortcuts to them, but I didn't hear anything
>> about forceing access at the tab and arrow keys when it is not there,
>> forcing accessible menus to display, the things I have heard that HSC
>> and AHK do.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/2012 2:38 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>> it'll work with 32-bit don't worry.
>>> cheers
>>> Roy.
>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>
>>>
>>>> This is Window-Eyes 7.5.4.1 I'm on right now, with NVDA, totally
>>>> stable on this particular machine in 64 bit Win 7; but I've learned to
>>>> hate the useless appsI've tried so far, so keep them all switched off.
>>>> I guess I'll install this version on my XP daw and try its hot
>>>> spotter, or will 7.5.4.1 and it hot spotter not work on 32 bits?
>>>>
>>>> On 10/30/2012 1:10 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> There is also window-eyes version of hotspot clicker called hotspot
>>>>> which is fairly close to what hsc can do, but I think it might have a
>>>>> ways to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you can string commands together, click on invisible places on the
>>>>> screen, all that sort of stuff, and ofcourse label graphics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes window-eyes is better at recognizing tool-tips, it was so
>>>>> when
>>>>> I was doing those sessondrummer 3 ahk sets, it was tedious but I found
>>>>> everyone of those 200 plus spots with window-eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it does like to you especially on the web 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> David, I read about this feature of AHK, and think it can not only
>>>>>> report coordinates, but is said to be able to search out and find bit
>>>>>> map graphics, let you label them and return to them by name or
>>>>>> number.
>>>>>> I think Jaws already does list bit map images by number, even before
>>>>>> version 13's OCR feature, but Window-Eyes doesn't, just says graphic
>>>>>> every time it encounters a bit map image on a screen.
>>>>>> In Wineyes, you can label graphics, and then you can hear that text
>>>>>> name when the cursor moves across it.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, Window-Eyes has always had these faults, 1 it
>>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>> leaps the cursor over a screen graphic, like it has almost stepped on
>>>>>> a poison snake, 2, sometimes it says nothing at all when you move the
>>>>>> cursor across an important screen button, like the preset inc/dec
>>>>>> buttons, and, 3, it often isn't actually aligned with the screen
>>>>>> graphic when it says the word graphic, so clicks get no response.
>>>>>> This, I think, is a problem of its off screen modeling.
>>>>>> The screenreader doesn't actually show us what is on the screen, in
>>>>>> its real position, but arranges screen info in what it thinks is a
>>>>>> convenient arrangement for us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought that AHK might provide a fix, if it can recognize and
>>>>>> return
>>>>>> to a graphic, and announces them when the cursor is actually aligned
>>>>>> with the graphic, so that clicks work.
>>>>>> Maybe AHK also can help in locating graphics or buttons in a new
>>>>>> inaccessible bit map interface, so please let us know, David, if you
>>>>>> learn how to use Windowspy to find non speaking screen buttons, okay?
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/28/2012 6:59 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not really sure if this is relevant but, AHK comes with a
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> program entitled WindowSpy, and enables the sighted person to
>>>>>>> obtain the
>>>>>>> co-ords required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this window, there are two sets of co-ords, I think the first
>>>>>>> one is
>>>>>>> called Relative Window, and the second set of co-ords come up in
>>>>>>> the 'In
>>>>>>> Active Window'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This second one had me confused at the start, because SA read it as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> one word inactive, rather than the two words that it is ... in,
>>>>>>> active.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW: There is a very extensive Help file that comes with AHK!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David P Shortland
>>>>>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Snowbarger
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:30 AM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does AHK have the ability to reference it's coordinates against a
>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>> corner of a particular windows? Or, are they absolute screen coords.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle"
>>>>>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:24 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, the vst windows aren't the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The cordinates are different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone I think Gord, said it's just a matter of an offset, but we
>>>>>>>> haven't figured it out yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit
>>>>>>>> us at
>>>>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>>>>> or contact Chris Belle
>>>>>>>> cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> or Stephie Belle
>>>>>>>> sdb1961 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> for customized web design
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>>>>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:59 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just curious, what about the AHK stuff doesn't translate? I'm not
>>>>>>>>> familiar enough with any of your stuff, and have never really
>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>> using many plugins in Reaper that need such things. I'm mostly an
>>>>>>>>> audio guy, and 95% of the plugins I use for processing and such
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> accessible enough using either their native interfaces, or the
>>>>>>>>> ReaAccess automated parameter list thingy. I've yet to really get
>>>>>>>>> into the world of softsynths, where this is more of an issue.
>>>>>>>>> Is it just that the coordinates no longer match up, even when the
>>>>>>>>> plugin in question gets it's own window?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2012 6:16 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It's just too bad all the fine work that's been done for sonar
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> third party plugs won't translate to reaper, including my own
>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>> with autohotkey.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This represents years of community effort, both paid nad free.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yup, advanced screen-reader skills ie using your mouse, and
>>>>>>>>>> looking for
>>>>>>>>>> tool tips, and finding those pesky places to load samples,
>>>>>>>>>> impulses,
>>>>>>>>>> whatever will be necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doing reaper is like the wild wild west again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath"
>>>>>>>>>> <khoath at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They are all in the bundle you already got.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please make sure under vsp in preferences you set use generic
>>>>>>>>>>> intrface
>>>>>>>>>>> for vsts they are far more accessible this way.
>>>>>>>>>>> also understand if you don't want to review cursor give up on
>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>> vsts now.
>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/10/2012 11:15 AM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> hey all please can any one recommend individual or a sweet of
>>>>>>>>>>>> vst's
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is completely accessible and has the following effects:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> reverb and spring reverb
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> delay and tape delay
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> filtering vst with all the regular filters
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit crushing and distortion effect
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> compressor and multi band compressor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> eq and multi band eq
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tape warmer
>>>>>>>>>>>> limiting efect
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bass enhancement effect
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> some kind of arpagator
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> step sequencer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if theres any more i think of i'll let you guys know i don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> trahern.
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