[RWP] accessable efects vst's?

Tue Oct 30 22:40:36 EDT 2012

Is that HotSpot an official GW product? or a contribution of a private 
scripter.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?

>I downloaded the latest version of hotSpot, and listened to most of the mp3 
>tutorial.
> I may have missed some more powerful features after  I nodded off for a 
> nap, smile, but GW Micro's HotSpot really just creates a standard Wineyes 
> hot key, with a very easy to follow dialog structure, choosing the type of 
> window, the actions, the shortcut.
> It will search for a string you enter, take a preset action, or string of 
> actions, move the mouse by groups of pixels, my home made scheme, or jump 
> to screen coordinates.
> All these things are mostly what one can do anyway, except jump to 
> coordinates, but HotSpot seems nowhere near as powerful as AHK or HSC in 
> penetrating the inner structure of plugs.
> It would suffice for getting a group of screen coordinates by sighted 
> help, then creating shortcuts to them, but I didn't hear anything about 
> forceing access at the tab and arrow keys when it is not there, forcing 
> accessible menus to display, the things I have heard that HSC and AHK do.
>
>
>
> On 10/30/2012 2:38 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>> it'll work with 32-bit don't worry.
>> cheers
>> Roy.
>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>
>>
>>> This is Window-Eyes 7.5.4.1 I'm on right now, with NVDA, totally
>>> stable on this particular machine in 64 bit Win 7; but I've learned to
>>> hate the useless appsI've tried so far, so keep them all switched off.
>>> I guess I'll install this version on my XP daw and try its hot
>>> spotter, or will 7.5.4.1 and it hot spotter not work on 32 bits?
>>>
>>> On 10/30/2012 1:10 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>> There is also window-eyes version of hotspot clicker called hotspot
>>>> which is fairly close to what hsc can do, but I think it might have a
>>>> ways to go.
>>>>
>>>> But you can string commands together, click on invisible places on the
>>>> screen, all that sort of stuff, and ofcourse label graphics.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes window-eyes is better at recognizing tool-tips, it was so 
>>>> when
>>>> I was doing those sessondrummer 3 ahk sets, it was tedious but I found
>>>> everyone of those 200 plus spots with window-eyes.
>>>>
>>>> But it does like to you especially on the web 'grin'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David, I read about this feature of AHK, and think it can not only
>>>>> report coordinates, but is said to be able to search out and find bit
>>>>> map graphics, let you label them and return to them by name or number.
>>>>> I think Jaws already does list bit map images by number, even before
>>>>> version 13's OCR feature, but Window-Eyes doesn't, just says graphic
>>>>> every time it encounters a bit map image on a screen.
>>>>> In Wineyes, you can label graphics, and then you can hear that text
>>>>> name when the cursor moves across it.
>>>>> Unfortunately, Window-Eyes has always had these faults, 1 it sometimes
>>>>> leaps the cursor over a screen graphic, like it has almost stepped on
>>>>> a poison snake, 2, sometimes it says nothing at all when you move the
>>>>> cursor across an important screen button, like the preset inc/dec
>>>>> buttons, and, 3, it often isn't actually aligned with the screen
>>>>> graphic when it says the word graphic, so clicks get no response.
>>>>> This, I think, is a problem of its off screen modeling.
>>>>> The screenreader doesn't actually show us what is on the screen, in
>>>>> its real position, but arranges screen info in what it thinks is a
>>>>> convenient arrangement for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that AHK might provide a fix, if it can recognize and return
>>>>> to a graphic, and announces them when the cursor is actually aligned
>>>>> with the graphic, so that clicks work.
>>>>> Maybe AHK also can help in locating graphics or buttons in a new
>>>>> inaccessible bit map interface, so please let us know, David, if you
>>>>> learn how to use Windowspy to find non speaking screen buttons, okay?
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/28/2012 6:59 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>>>>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not really sure if this is relevant but, AHK comes with a little
>>>>>> program entitled WindowSpy, and enables the sighted person to
>>>>>> obtain the
>>>>>> co-ords required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this window, there are two sets of co-ords, I think the first
>>>>>> one is
>>>>>> called Relative Window, and the second set of co-ords come up in
>>>>>> the 'In
>>>>>> Active Window'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This second one had me confused at the start, because SA read it as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> one word inactive, rather than the two words that it is ... in,
>>>>>> active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: There is a very extensive Help file that comes with AHK!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David P Shortland
>>>>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Snowbarger
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:30 AM
>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does AHK have the ability to reference it's coordinates against a
>>>>>> particular
>>>>>> corner of a particular windows? Or, are they absolute screen coords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle"
>>>>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:24 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, the vst windows aren't the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cordinates are different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Someone I think Gord, said it's just a matter of an offset, but we
>>>>>>> haven't figured it out yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit
>>>>>>> us at
>>>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>>>> or contact Chris Belle
>>>>>>> cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> or Stephie Belle
>>>>>>> sdb1961 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> for customized web design
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>>>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:59 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just curious, what about the AHK stuff doesn't translate? I'm not
>>>>>>>> familiar enough with any of your stuff, and have never really tried
>>>>>>>> using many plugins in Reaper that need such things. I'm mostly an
>>>>>>>> audio guy, and 95% of the plugins I use for processing and such are
>>>>>>>> accessible enough using either their native interfaces, or the
>>>>>>>> ReaAccess automated parameter list thingy. I've yet to really get
>>>>>>>> into the world of softsynths, where this is more of an issue.
>>>>>>>> Is it just that the coordinates no longer match up, even when the
>>>>>>>> plugin in question gets it's own window?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2012 6:16 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It's just too bad all the fine work that's been done for sonar 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> third party plugs won't translate to reaper, including my own 
>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>> with autohotkey.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This represents years of community effort, both paid nad free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yup, advanced screen-reader skills ie using your mouse, and
>>>>>>>>> looking for
>>>>>>>>> tool tips, and finding those pesky places to load samples,
>>>>>>>>> impulses,
>>>>>>>>> whatever will be necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doing reaper is like the wild wild west again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" 
>>>>>>>>> <khoath at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:36 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are all in the bundle you already got.
>>>>>>>>>> Please make sure under vsp in preferences you set use generic
>>>>>>>>>> intrface
>>>>>>>>>> for vsts they are far more accessible this way.
>>>>>>>>>> also understand if you don't want to review cursor give up on 
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> vsts now.
>>>>>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 26/10/2012 11:15 AM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> hey all please can any one recommend individual or a sweet of
>>>>>>>>>>> vst's
>>>>>>>>>>> that is completely accessible and has the following effects:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> reverb and spring reverb
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> delay and tape delay
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> filtering vst with all the regular filters
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> bit crushing and distortion effect
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> compressor and multi band compressor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> eq and multi band eq
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tape warmer
>>>>>>>>>>> limiting efect
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> bass enhancement effect
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> some kind of arpagator
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> step sequencer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if theres any more i think of i'll let you guys know i don't 
>>>>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>> trahern.
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