[RWP] accessable efects vst's?

Tue Oct 30 20:35:52 EDT 2012

No hotspot seems to work ok on everything.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?

> This is Window-Eyes 7.5.4.1 I'm on right now, with NVDA, totally stable on 
> this particular machine in 64 bit Win 7; but I've learned to hate the 
> useless appsI've tried so far, so keep them all switched off.
> I guess I'll install this version on my XP daw and try its hot spotter, or 
> will 7.5.4.1 and it hot spotter not work on 32 bits?
>
> On 10/30/2012 1:10 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> There is also window-eyes version of hotspot clicker called hotspot
>> which is fairly close to what hsc can do, but I think it might have a
>> ways to go.
>>
>> But you can string commands together, click on invisible places on the
>> screen, all that sort of stuff, and ofcourse label graphics.
>>
>> Sometimes window-eyes is better at recognizing tool-tips, it was so when
>> I was doing those sessondrummer 3 ahk sets, it was tedious but I found
>> everyone of those 200 plus spots with window-eyes.
>>
>> But it does like to you especially on the web 'grin'.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>
>>
>>> David, I read about this feature of AHK, and think it can not only
>>> report coordinates, but is said to be able to search out and find bit
>>> map graphics, let you label them and return to them by name or number.
>>> I think Jaws already does list bit map images by number, even before
>>> version 13's OCR feature, but Window-Eyes doesn't, just says graphic
>>> every time it encounters a bit map image on a screen.
>>> In Wineyes, you can label graphics, and then you can hear that text
>>> name when the cursor moves across it.
>>> Unfortunately, Window-Eyes has always had these faults, 1 it sometimes
>>> leaps the cursor over a screen graphic, like it has almost stepped on
>>> a poison snake, 2, sometimes it says nothing at all when you move the
>>> cursor across an important screen button, like the preset inc/dec
>>> buttons, and, 3, it often isn't actually aligned with the screen
>>> graphic when it says the word graphic, so clicks get no response.
>>> This, I think, is a problem of its off screen modeling.
>>> The screenreader doesn't actually show us what is on the screen, in
>>> its real position, but arranges screen info in what it thinks is a
>>> convenient arrangement for us.
>>>
>>> I thought that AHK might provide a fix, if it can recognize and return
>>> to a graphic, and announces them when the cursor is actually aligned
>>> with the graphic, so that clicks work.
>>> Maybe AHK also can help in locating graphics or buttons in a new
>>> inaccessible bit map interface, so please let us know, David, if you
>>> learn how to use Windowspy to find non speaking screen buttons, okay?
>>> Indigo L
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2012 6:59 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
>>>>
>>>> I am not really sure if this is relevant but, AHK comes with a little
>>>> program entitled WindowSpy, and enables the sighted person to obtain 
>>>> the
>>>> co-ords required.
>>>>
>>>> In this window, there are two sets of co-ords, I think the first one is
>>>> called Relative Window, and the second set of co-ords come up in the 
>>>> 'In
>>>> Active Window'.
>>>>
>>>> This second one had me confused at the start, because SA read it as the
>>>> one word inactive, rather than the two words that it is ... in, active.
>>>>
>>>> BTW: There is a very extensive Help file that comes with AHK!
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> David P Shortland
>>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Snowbarger
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:30 AM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>
>>>> Does AHK have the ability to reference it's coordinates against a
>>>> particular
>>>> corner of a particular windows? Or, are they absolute screen coords.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:24 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the vst windows aren't the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cordinates are different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone I think Gord, said it's just a matter of an offset, but we
>>>>> haven't figured it out yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit
>>>>> us at
>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>> or contact Chris Belle
>>>>> cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>> or Stephie Belle
>>>>> sdb1961 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>> for customized web design
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:59 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious, what about the AHK stuff doesn't translate? I'm not
>>>>>> familiar enough with any of your stuff, and have never really tried
>>>>>> using many plugins in Reaper that need such things. I'm mostly an
>>>>>> audio guy, and 95% of the plugins I use for processing and such are
>>>>>> accessible enough using either their native interfaces, or the
>>>>>> ReaAccess automated parameter list thingy. I've yet to really get
>>>>>> into the world of softsynths, where this is more of an issue.
>>>>>> Is it just that the coordinates no longer match up, even when the
>>>>>> plugin in question gets it's own window?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/26/2012 6:16 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>> It's just too bad all the fine work that's been done for sonar with
>>>>>>> third party plugs won't translate to reaper, including my own stuff
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> with autohotkey.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This represents years of community effort, both paid nad free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yup, advanced screen-reader skills ie using your mouse, and
>>>>>>> looking for
>>>>>>> tool tips, and finding those pesky places to load samples, impulses,
>>>>>>> whatever will be necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doing reaper is like the wild wild west again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <khoath at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:36 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are all in the bundle you already got.
>>>>>>>> Please make sure under vsp in preferences you set use generic
>>>>>>>> intrface
>>>>>>>> for vsts they are far more accessible this way.
>>>>>>>> also understand if you don't want to review cursor give up on many
>>>>>>>> vsts now.
>>>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/10/2012 11:15 AM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hey all please can any one recommend individual or a sweet of 
>>>>>>>>> vst's
>>>>>>>>> that is completely accessible and has the following effects:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reverb and spring reverb
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> delay and tape delay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> filtering vst with all the regular filters
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bit crushing and distortion effect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> compressor and multi band compressor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> eq and multi band eq
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tape warmer
>>>>>>>>> limiting efect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bass enhancement effect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> some kind of arpagator
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> step sequencer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if theres any more i think of i'll let you guys know i don't mind
>>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>>>> trahern.
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