[RWP] accessable efects vst's?

Tue Oct 30 13:36:01 EDT 2012

This is Window-Eyes 7.5.4.1 I'm on right now, with NVDA, totally stable 
on this particular machine in 64 bit Win 7; but I've learned to hate the 
useless appsI've tried so far, so keep them all switched off.
I guess I'll install this version on my XP daw and try its hot spotter, 
or will 7.5.4.1 and it hot spotter not work on 32 bits?

On 10/30/2012 1:10 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
> There is also window-eyes version of hotspot clicker called hotspot
> which is fairly close to what hsc can do, but I think it might have a
> ways to go.
>
> But you can string commands together, click on invisible places on the
> screen, all that sort of stuff, and ofcourse label graphics.
>
> Sometimes window-eyes is better at recognizing tool-tips, it was so when
> I was doing those sessondrummer 3 ahk sets, it was tedious but I found
> everyone of those 200 plus spots with window-eyes.
>
> But it does like to you especially on the web 'grin'.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>
>
>> David, I read about this feature of AHK, and think it can not only
>> report coordinates, but is said to be able to search out and find bit
>> map graphics, let you label them and return to them by name or number.
>> I think Jaws already does list bit map images by number, even before
>> version 13's OCR feature, but Window-Eyes doesn't, just says graphic
>> every time it encounters a bit map image on a screen.
>> In Wineyes, you can label graphics, and then you can hear that text
>> name when the cursor moves across it.
>> Unfortunately, Window-Eyes has always had these faults, 1 it sometimes
>> leaps the cursor over a screen graphic, like it has almost stepped on
>> a poison snake, 2, sometimes it says nothing at all when you move the
>> cursor across an important screen button, like the preset inc/dec
>> buttons, and, 3, it often isn't actually aligned with the screen
>> graphic when it says the word graphic, so clicks get no response.
>> This, I think, is a problem of its off screen modeling.
>> The screenreader doesn't actually show us what is on the screen, in
>> its real position, but arranges screen info in what it thinks is a
>> convenient arrangement for us.
>>
>> I thought that AHK might provide a fix, if it can recognize and return
>> to a graphic, and announces them when the cursor is actually aligned
>> with the graphic, so that clicks work.
>> Maybe AHK also can help in locating graphics or buttons in a new
>> inaccessible bit map interface, so please let us know, David, if you
>> learn how to use Windowspy to find non speaking screen buttons, okay?
>> Indigo L
>>
>> On 10/28/2012 6:59 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
>>>
>>> I am not really sure if this is relevant but, AHK comes with a little
>>> program entitled WindowSpy, and enables the sighted person to obtain the
>>> co-ords required.
>>>
>>> In this window, there are two sets of co-ords, I think the first one is
>>> called Relative Window, and the second set of co-ords come up in the 'In
>>> Active Window'.
>>>
>>> This second one had me confused at the start, because SA read it as the
>>> one word inactive, rather than the two words that it is ... in, active.
>>>
>>> BTW: There is a very extensive Help file that comes with AHK!
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> David P Shortland
>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Snowbarger
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:30 AM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>
>>> Does AHK have the ability to reference it's coordinates against a
>>> particular
>>> corner of a particular windows? Or, are they absolute screen coords.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, the vst windows aren't the same.
>>>>
>>>> The cordinates are different.
>>>>
>>>> Someone I think Gord, said it's just a matter of an offset, but we
>>>> haven't figured it out yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit
>>>> us at
>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>> or contact Chris Belle
>>>> cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
>>>> or Stephie Belle
>>>> sdb1961 at sbcglobal.net
>>>> for customized web design
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just curious, what about the AHK stuff doesn't translate? I'm not
>>>>> familiar enough with any of your stuff, and have never really tried
>>>>> using many plugins in Reaper that need such things. I'm mostly an
>>>>> audio guy, and 95% of the plugins I use for processing and such are
>>>>> accessible enough using either their native interfaces, or the
>>>>> ReaAccess automated parameter list thingy. I've yet to really get
>>>>> into the world of softsynths, where this is more of an issue.
>>>>> Is it just that the coordinates no longer match up, even when the
>>>>> plugin in question gets it's own window?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/2012 6:16 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>> It's just too bad all the fine work that's been done for sonar with
>>>>>> third party plugs won't translate to reaper, including my own stuff
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> with autohotkey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This represents years of community effort, both paid nad free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup, advanced screen-reader skills ie using your mouse, and
>>>>>> looking for
>>>>>> tool tips, and finding those pesky places to load samples, impulses,
>>>>>> whatever will be necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doing reaper is like the wild wild west again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <khoath at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:36 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are all in the bundle you already got.
>>>>>>> Please make sure under vsp in preferences you set use generic
>>>>>>> intrface
>>>>>>> for vsts they are far more accessible this way.
>>>>>>> also understand if you don't want to review cursor give up on many
>>>>>>> vsts now.
>>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/10/2012 11:15 AM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>>>>> hey all please can any one recommend individual or a sweet of vst's
>>>>>>>> that is completely accessible and has the following effects:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reverb and spring reverb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> delay and tape delay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> filtering vst with all the regular filters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bit crushing and distortion effect
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> compressor and multi band compressor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> eq and multi band eq
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tape warmer
>>>>>>>> limiting efect
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bass enhancement effect
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> some kind of arpagator
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> step sequencer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if theres any more i think of i'll let you guys know i don't mind
>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>>> trahern.
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