[RWP] accessable efects vst's?

Tue Oct 30 13:10:20 EDT 2012

There is also window-eyes version of hotspot clicker called hotspot which is 
fairly close to what hsc can do, but I think it might have a ways to go.

But you can string commands together, click on invisible places on the 
screen, all that sort of stuff, and ofcourse label graphics.

Sometimes window-eyes is better at recognizing tool-tips, it was so when I 
was doing those sessondrummer 3 ahk sets, it was tedious but I found 
everyone of those 200 plus spots with window-eyes.

But it does like to you especially on the web 'grin'.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?

> David, I read about this feature of AHK, and think it can not only report 
> coordinates, but is said to be able to search out and find bit map 
> graphics, let you label them and return to them by name or number.
> I think Jaws already does list bit map images by number, even before 
> version 13's OCR feature, but Window-Eyes doesn't, just says graphic every 
> time it encounters a bit map image on a screen.
> In Wineyes, you can label graphics, and then you can hear that text name 
> when the cursor moves across it.
> Unfortunately, Window-Eyes has always had these faults, 1 it sometimes 
> leaps the cursor over a screen graphic, like it has almost stepped on a 
> poison snake, 2, sometimes it says nothing at all when you move the cursor 
> across an important screen button, like the preset inc/dec buttons, and, 
> 3, it often isn't actually aligned with the screen graphic when it says 
> the word graphic, so clicks get no response.
> This, I think, is a problem of its off screen modeling.
> The screenreader doesn't actually show us what is on the screen, in its 
> real position, but arranges screen info in what it thinks is a convenient 
> arrangement for us.
>
> I thought that AHK might provide a fix, if it can recognize and return to 
> a graphic, and announces them when the cursor is actually aligned with the 
> graphic, so that clicks work.
> Maybe AHK also can help in locating graphics or buttons in a new 
> inaccessible bit map interface, so please let us know, David, if you learn 
> how to use Windowspy to find non speaking screen buttons, okay?
> Indigo L
>
> On 10/28/2012 6:59 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
>>
>> I am not really sure if this is relevant but, AHK comes with a little
>> program entitled WindowSpy, and enables the sighted person to obtain the
>> co-ords required.
>>
>> In this window, there are two sets of co-ords, I think the first one is
>> called Relative Window, and the second set of co-ords come up in the 'In
>> Active Window'.
>>
>> This second one had me confused at the start, because SA read it as the
>> one word inactive, rather than the two words that it is ... in, active.
>>
>> BTW: There is a very extensive Help file that comes with AHK!
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Snowbarger
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:30 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>
>> Does AHK have the ability to reference it's coordinates against a
>> particular
>> corner of a particular windows? Or, are they absolute screen coords.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>
>>
>>> Yes, the vst windows aren't the same.
>>>
>>> The cordinates are different.
>>>
>>> Someone I think Gord, said it's just a matter of an offset, but we
>>> haven't figured it out yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at
>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>> or contact Chris Belle
>>> cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
>>> or Stephie Belle
>>> sdb1961 at sbcglobal.net
>>> for customized web design
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue" 
>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just curious, what about the AHK stuff doesn't translate? I'm not
>>>> familiar enough with any of your stuff, and have never really tried
>>>> using many plugins in Reaper that need such things. I'm mostly an
>>>> audio guy, and 95% of the plugins I use for processing and such are
>>>> accessible enough using either their native interfaces, or the
>>>> ReaAccess automated parameter list thingy. I've yet to really get
>>>> into the world of softsynths, where this is more of an issue.
>>>> Is it just that the coordinates no longer match up, even when the
>>>> plugin in question gets it's own window?
>>>>
>>>> On 10/26/2012 6:16 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> It's just too bad all the fine work that's been done for sonar with
>>>>> third party plugs won't translate to reaper, including my own stuff
>>>>> done
>>>>> with autohotkey.
>>>>>
>>>>> This represents years of community effort, both paid nad free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup, advanced screen-reader skills ie using your mouse, and looking 
>>>>> for
>>>>> tool tips, and finding those pesky places to load samples, impulses,
>>>>> whatever will be necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing reaper is like the wild wild west again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <khoath at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:36 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] accessable efects vst's?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are all in the bundle you already got.
>>>>>> Please make sure under vsp in preferences you set use generic 
>>>>>> intrface
>>>>>> for vsts they are far more accessible this way.
>>>>>> also understand if you don't want to review cursor give up on many
>>>>>> vsts now.
>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/10/2012 11:15 AM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>>>> hey all please can any one recommend individual or a sweet of vst's
>>>>>>> that is completely accessible and has the following effects:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reverb and spring reverb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> delay and tape delay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> filtering vst with all the regular filters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bit crushing and distortion effect
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> compressor and multi band compressor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eq and multi band eq
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tape warmer
>>>>>>> limiting efect
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bass enhancement effect
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some kind of arpagator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> step sequencer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if theres any more i think of i'll let you guys know i don't mind
>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>> trahern.
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