[RWP] need some VST recommendations

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Sat Oct 27 01:48:59 EDT 2012 

I understand your english just fine.
Well, if you have your Kronos enabled, you find the word enabled after 
its name in ctrl+P midi devices.
Yes, you can test to learn if midi is going from the Kronos to reaper by 
inserting a synth.
In track view, either press alt to display menus, arrow right to insert, 
arrow down to virtual instrument, and press enter.
or, use the shortcut ctrl+insert.

That is the insert key above your arrow keys, not the insert at the 
bottom left of the number pad.
Next Go to your tab key and find the VSTI folder, which should have 
ReaSynth, and press enter on it.
Now, ReaSynth  is not an exciting  synth , but it always works to play 
oscillator tones, if your keyboard is sending midi.
You will need to arm the track where ReaSynth is displayed.
Arrow up or down to that track . to select it

Then press your tab key until you hear  Arm For Recording, and press 
spacebar to hear the word on.
Then tab down until you find Input Source.
Arrow to your Korg Kronus, which should be named as an input source if 
it is enabled correctly in options/preferences.
Then press enter to save your settings.
Now, you should hear the ReaSynth toot, toot,  when you press the Kronus 
keys.
When you insert a midi file in Insert Media, you can arrow to the track 
with the midi file named, then tab to output source and select the 
Kronus as the output source.
Press enter to save the setting.
Now, the midi file should  play preset sounds within the Kronus.

So, now you have confirmed that midi is both coming from the Kronus, and 
being sent to the Kronus.
Please, anyone help if I got any of this wrong, It's late and I'm very 
sleepy.

By the way, I have heard that the Korg touch screens are not the most 
accessible, but some people have pasted dots onto points that stay in 
the  same place as you navigate.
For points on the screen that move around, I don't know what to do, 
maybe you can find them with a light probe.
I've used a light probe to tell if led's are lit up.
If you can navigate around the Kronus with buttons, use those instead of 
the touch screen,

I use the E-Mu 1616M sound card, and love its clear sound, but its 
PatchMix control panel is not accessible.
You can load a session template by going to C:\program files,Creative 
Professional\ and I think device, then arrow down to session templates, 
Choose a session template for the 1212M.

The ones titled default factory session are a agood beginning.
Its bit depth and sample rate should match what you intend to record at 
in Reaper.
Choose 24 bits, and 44.1K is a good starting point for recording
Press enter on that session template and it will load.
Use alt+F4 to close and return to your desktop

You will need to press ctrl+P to go to reaper options/preferences and 
arrow to audio, then audio device.
In audio, choose ASIO as your audio driver.

in Audio Device, do the same as you did for the Korg Kronus, you tab 
down until you hear the inputs and outputs of your E-Mu 1212m, and make 
sure they're selected .
You can choose the first input to the last input you want to use.
You can also select which outputs you use.
I can only get output a u x 15 as the first output, and a u x 16 as the 
last output.
Hopefully you will be luckier, and get more outputs.
Before exiting, press enter on apply, and okay.
.
.. good luck,
Indigo L
On 10/26/2012 4:57 PM, hadi wrote:
> hello
>
> unfortunetly, kronos got a full-functioned touchscreen.
> i have no idea why i did payed like $3800 to buy this beast, but the
> quality sounds of it just charmed me enough.
> well, TBH with kronos i can already select programs, combinations, and
> setLists easily (because it got a keypad) and there is buttons to select
> the modes.
>
> , fortunetly i can ajust the parameters of a combi or a program (an
> instrument) because it got analog sliders and nobs.
> but, i get sighted assisstent for making new combinations, and
> programming sounds. (not good at programming either because... oh well,
> it's very hard), (i mostly download sound libs instead of programming)
>
> recently korg has released a kronos editor software which will let you
> to work with kronos remotely with a software.
> it sounds very accessible with the jaws cursor, but it doesn't have any
> tab order and such, so i think i need jaws scripts for it, (don't know
> how to write scripts... ) to make it more accessible.
> i managed to edit kronos global options with the editor software with
> the jaws cursor... ;d
> don't know, maybe getting this workstation wasn't a good idea and i
> should had to get motif instead.
>
> oh well, i connected kronos with a USB cable and installed its drivers.
> and as an audio interface, i got creative e-MU 1212m.
> my currently use of it is audio input, i got two big audio jacks from my
> kronos into it.
>
> by the way, i did what you said, and it sounds like that i have done it
> correctly, however i don't know how to test it.
> should i select the "incert virtual instrument on new track"?
> when i do that, it shows me some VST lists, which most of them are for
> reaper.
> and when i press enter on them, and arm my track and play the keyboard,
> nothing happens.
> how should i make the VSTs to appear on that list?
> or i'm doing something wrong.
> thanks! you've helped me alot.
> and sorry fo my bad english~
>
> On 10/26/2012 11:03 PM, Indigo wrote:
>> What is your audio interface?
>> Do you have your Korg Kronos plugged into your computer with a USB
>> cable, or do you have a midi interface, with midi cables connected to
>> the Korg Kronos?
>> I hope your Korg Kronos doesn't have a touch screen, which is a big
>> problem for those who can't see where to touch the screen.
>> After you have install Reaper, open and close it once, then install
>> ReaAccess, the next thing is to get your Korg Kronos recognized as
>> your midi device.
>> From the track view. press ctrl+P.
>> Arrrow up or down to audio, then midi device.
>> Then tab down until you read the name of your midi keyboard, Korg
>> Kronos in this case.
>> If the word disabled appears after the name, you need to enable the
>> Korg Kronos.
>> Focus on the name of your midi keyboard, then route to the PC cursor
>> at the number pad.
>> Focus on the word disabled, then right click on disabled.
>> Then left click on configure this device, or similar words.
>> The configuration dialog opens.
>> Press spacebar to place a checkmark on use this device, and also on
>> use as a midi controller.
>> Be sure to press enter on apply and okay before exiting
>> Your Korg Kronos should now send midi to Reaper.
>> In the same place in Reaper, options, preferences, ctrl+P, configure
>> your audio interface, under Audio, Device.
>> HTH
>> Indigo L
>>
>> .
>>
>> On 10/26/2012 1:22 PM, hadi wrote:
>>> hi there indigo
>>> wow, i really did appreciated all these stuff, they are now less
>>> confusing now, thanks for explaining how they mostly work~. i've saved
>>> this mail because you have named some good VSTs out here~
>>>
>>> for now i am trying to make my workstation (it's a korg kronos) to work
>>> as a midi keyboard.
>>> it will probably work, but i have no idea how.
>>> should i get midi output with my PC soundcard, or with my workstation's
>>> soundcard??
>>> i am going to mail you to get that demo which you're talking, so
>>> hopefully i'll make sure that i'm hosting a VST correctly before trying
>>> to connect my workstation as a midi.
>>> wow univercity, it makes me to produce less music now :(
>>> sorry for delays at responding.
>>> thanks indigo
>>> -regards,
>>> hadi
>>>
>>> On 10/24/2012 9:56 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>> Hadi, Session Drummer comes with Sonar, but I don't know if it will
>>>> run in Reaper, but some of Sonar's plugs run just fine in Reaper.
>>>> TTS synth runs great.
>>>> Reaper will run at least the presets on hundreds of free and bought
>>>> VST plugins.
>>>> Some, like Dune, or Z3ta, open with their presetss nicely displayed in
>>>> a list, so all you do is arrow up or down and press enter for presets
>>>> to load.
>>>> Dune, and I think Z3ta, also Albino, Blue, Predator, also respond
>>>> nicely to program change messages sent from your midi keyboard.
>>>> To access the parameter list of any synth, from track view press
>>>> shift+P.
>>>> You get a long or short list of presets, depending on what the plugIn
>>>> supplies to Reaper, sometimes nicely named, sometimes only numbered.
>>>> Press your tab key while arrowed to a preset to get an edit box, where
>>>> you can type in a value; then another press of tab gets the slider to
>>>> change preset values.
>>>> You can increase/decrease values with the arrows, jump to minimum or
>>>> maximum with end and home keys, or jump by groups of 200 with the page
>>>> up and down keys.
>>>> These parameter values are displayed as zero to 1,000, or simply zero
>>>> and 1 for an off on switch.
>>>> Press enter on okay to save your parameter value changes and return to
>>>> track view.
>>>> Hadi, write to me at 33indigo at charter.net and I can attach the neat
>>>> little Dune demo that behaves itself wonderfully, has about 50 or 60
>>>> nice presets, and never times out.
>>>> That is the plug I use as a test plug, to make sure everything is
>>>> working, because it's so totally dependable.
>>>>
>>>> I can also attach Super""Wave P8 synth, if you haven't already found
>>>> it.
>>>> Indigo L
>>>>
>>>> On 10/24/2012 11:44 AM, hadi wrote:
>>>>> hello there
>>>>> @Indigo l,
>>>>> thanks alot for this information, i'm so new to VSTs, gonna start
>>>>> slowly~
>>>>> isn't Session Drummer for sonar only? or it can work with reaper as
>>>>> well
>>>>> also, i've heard that reaper could interface some of the VST
>>>>> options....
>>>>> how that works?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/23/2012 8:34 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Hadi,
>>>>>> Rapture and Dimension Pro are excellent, but not free, and their
>>>>>> preset load dialog is somewhat awkward, but accessible.
>>>>>> I think there are Jaws scripts for both of those.
>>>>>> As to drums, many people use Addictive Drums, which are great, and
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> not sure as to its access status, there may be scripts for it now.
>>>>>> Session Drummer from Cakewalk Sonar is good, and has AutoHotKey
>>>>>> scripts written by Chris Belle for it that work with all
>>>>>> screenreaders.
>>>>>> I know there are more percussion plugIns that are used, but can't
>>>>>> think of all their names right now.
>>>>>> I got tired of patching in drum tracks and bought the new Casio XW-G1
>>>>>> synthesizer keyboard, which has any drum track and any bass you'd
>>>>>> want, and if it's not already there on the keyboard, you can just
>>>>>> synthesize it.
>>>>>> If you use Jaws, Steve Spamer's HSC scripts, about $59 USD, for
>>>>>> Spectrasonics Stylus RMX, will give access to Stylus's percussion on
>>>>>> RexFiles.
>>>>>> As for bass, Steve Spamer also has AHK scripts for Spectrasonics
>>>>>> Trilian bass synthesizer, which is very good.
>>>>>> If you want the ultra low frequency sub bass used everywhere now, Rob
>>>>>> Papen's SubBoomBass VST is very accessible, even without scripts.
>>>>>> Also, Papen's Blue and Predator VST synths are accessible out of the
>>>>>> box.
>>>>>> None of those are free though.
>>>>>> I don't know Native Guitar.
>>>>>> As for Native Instruments plugIns, most have all bit map image
>>>>>> interfaces, and require a lot of script writing to get going with
>>>>>> them, but their sound is incredible.
>>>>>> FM7 is easy to play presets on, I manage to play presets on FM8 with
>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>> Same with NI Massive, incredible basses, but a pain to even play
>>>>>> presets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many folks have struggled with access to Kontakt and Kontakt Player,
>>>>>> and Jaws scripts are appearing for those.
>>>>>> I haven't looked lately, but I'm sure that there are percussion and
>>>>>> bass libraries for Kontakt.
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/23/2012 9:38 AM, hadi wrote:
>>>>>>> hello indigo
>>>>>>> thanks for letting me to know about this. sounds like a good VST.
>>>>>>> i will probably check this out when i'm at home. (and ill comment
>>>>>>> on it
>>>>>>> when i try it out)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> by the way, i've seen people talking about rapture and demention
>>>>>>> pro on
>>>>>>> the mailinglist... are they accessible to us?
>>>>>>> how about native guitar?
>>>>>>> i'm looking for professional VSTs that are actually equal or better
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> my hardware synthesizers.
>>>>>>> for example, drums, or bases.
>>>>>>> i can't patch a good base with my synthisizer,...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks alot.!
>>>>>>> -regards,
>>>>>>> hadi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/23/2012 4:38 AM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi,
>>>>>>>> You can't beat Superwave P8.
>>>>>>>> It's an old stanb by, with a long list of presets that display when
>>>>>>>> you load the VST, and respond to program change sent from your midi
>>>>>>>> keyboard.
>>>>>>>> Once you get into SuperWave, there are lots of user made presets on
>>>>>>>> the web for it, especially at the main website for free plugs,
>>>>>>>> www.kvr.com
>>>>>>>> Here's a direct download link, just arrow down until you read the
>>>>>>>> words, download superwave P8, right click on the link and save it
>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>> convenient folder.
>>>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.superwavesynths.co.uk/product_p8.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2012 7:36 AM, hadi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hello there
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i've recently started to use reaper and i can say it's very
>>>>>>>>> cool, i
>>>>>>>>> can't be more faster than this :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i mostly work with hardware synths, but i'm going to give some
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> instruments a try too.
>>>>>>>>> can you recommend me some good VST, (both commercial and free),
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> has accessible interface as well?
>>>>>>>>> i tried to download and try some of the freewares and they had an
>>>>>>>>> inaccessible graphical interface.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i'd appreciate any help.
>>>>>>>>> thanks alot!
>>>>>>>>> -regards,
>>>>>>>>> hadi
>>>>>>>>>
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