[RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts

[Indigo]

That's what we all are doing, getting along as best we can given the 
tools at hand.
Casio Japan has so far ignored my request for a better PC editor for 
their XW keyboards.
The PC editor, which is not very large,   is so badly written that it 
demands no other program being run at the same time it's running.
I have to sneak up on it by getting into position with its .exe in 
focus, then shut down the screenreader and hit enter on the .exe, then 
wait until the editor has fully loaded, then bring up the screenreader.
If I don't wait until it's fully loaded and stabilized as much as it 
will, when I load the screenreader the editor closes.
I've been able to navigate in it, and get some response from clicks, but 
I've shelved using it, until it might possibly be improved  one day.
I'll go to the Casio forum and post another polite request for access, 
again and again, in perpituity! smile.

On 11/20/2012 5:24 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
> I can get along in plug-in windows and have an idea of what's going on.
> sometimes even operating many of the plug-in's features.
> of course it's not perfect , but certainly better than nothing.
> one good example is the KaosCilator pro editor by korg; without the ocr
> , Jaws would find nothing besides the regular menu bar.
> with the ocr , I can send/receive between the device and the editor ,
> and do a couple other things.
> cheers
> Roy.
> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"
> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>
>
>> Define "works".
>> I have had mixed results with jaws OCR. Usually, you get a bunch of
>> fragments, that's about it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Shtupler" <shtupler at 013.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>
>>
>>> the ocr works in the demo version.
>>> best
>>> Roy.
>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yep, I'll definitely add that OCR to NVDA, in hopeds of locating
>>>> more plug buttons.
>>>> I guess I could install Jaws 13, 14, whatever, demo in my daw, to
>>>> use its OCR, if the OCR works in the demo version.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2012 11:08 AM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>> true; but it's better than nothing , and works significantly in many
>>>>> plug-in windows , including Reason windows , at least to get a partial
>>>>> picture of what's going on , instead of hearing just "blank" ,
>>>>> "blank" ,
>>>>> or complete silence.
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> Roy.
>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Haven't gotten to Win8 yet.
>>>>>> I'm still trying to comprehend the Casio XW-G1 synth keyboard and its
>>>>>> complexity, plus learn Sound forge's potential that I never utilized
>>>>>> more than a fraction of.
>>>>>> So far, OCR hasn't done much for me.
>>>>>> It seems of no particular benefit in manuals featuring large pictures
>>>>>> of panels or controls, with small labels around the edges of the
>>>>>> picture pointing to various controls.
>>>>>> After running through OCR, I get a list of the labels, with no
>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>> what they were referring to on the pictures.
>>>>>> The human visual cortex has billions of pieces of learning, all
>>>>>> infinitely connected together with ganglia; so that what a person
>>>>>> sees
>>>>>> has meaning partly known, and partly inferred from similar images,
>>>>>> and; unfortunately; a pair of machine eyes is always going to be
>>>>>> playing catch up
>>>>>> As computers and memory become more and more powerful, programmers
>>>>>> will add more and more data to OCR, but it is the same issue as
>>>>>> artificial intelligence in general, describing a known image that
>>>>>> exactly matches already entered data will work, but it's inferring
>>>>>> from already entered data; when presented with a brand new image;
>>>>>> that's a computer's weakness; and; I believe, always will be.
>>>>>> Sorry to be realistic, don't take it for pessimism, okay?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/20/2012 2:04 AM, Roy wrote:
>>>>>>> hope nvda and System Access will have ocr in the future.
>>>>>>> have you tried window eyes 8 beta2?
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Belle
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:15 AM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your cousin, the redneck kermudgen says amen to that 'grin'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Little nvda is kickin butt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it weren't for sonar, I think I'd just give window-eyes and
>>>>>>> jaws both
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> heave ho and be done with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the only saving grace for window-eyes for me now is direct mouse
>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>> or navigating to and reporting a specific mouse cordinate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As soon as nvda gets that, I'll start paying them every year,
>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>> paying for folks who haven't done a thing for my bread and butter
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> even gone backwards, not in spite, but because there aren't
>>>>>>> enough of
>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>> doing what we do to matter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training,
>>>>>>> visit us at
>>>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>>>> Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> Stephie Belle sdb1961 at sbcglobal.net for customized web design
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Shtupler" <shtupler at 013.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:43 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> do it with nvda; it'll work happily with ReaAccess 64-bit.
>>>>>>>> those cute little cats (nvda , System Access , Reaper) will
>>>>>>>> eventually
>>>>>>>> blow the big bloaters out of the water if the latters don't wake up
>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 10:44 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to have to actually try that one,selecting items, but it
>>>>>>>>> seems to me that I don't need ctrl+shift+right arrow to select the
>>>>>>>>> next item.
>>>>>>>>> I used to keep Reaper on this 64 bit Win7 computer, just to
>>>>>>>>> refresh
>>>>>>>>> my memory about shortcuts and such, but since Wineyes won't run
>>>>>>>>> Reaper 64, along with ReaAccess; I took it off.
>>>>>>>>> I resent Wineyes 7.5x most of all for that stupid deficiency,
>>>>>>>>> but I'm
>>>>>>>>> quite happy in old defunct XP land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2012 3:18 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So, how do you select an item on the track without using the same
>>>>>>>>>> keys to move to next and previous items, rather than, as you
>>>>>>>>>> say, to
>>>>>>>>>> next and previous transients of the select item? That all makes
>>>>>>>>>> sense to me, except the actual doing it part.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Indigo<33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First you select an item on the selected track, then use the
>>>>>>>>>>> shortcut to move to a transcient within that selected item.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2012 2:34 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, its a relief to know that the terminology has not been
>>>>>>>>>>>> redefined
>>>>>>>>>>>> out from under me. but, what trips me up is that this keymap
>>>>>>>>>>>> summary,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and others I have seen, all list control+left and right
>>>>>>>>>>>> arrow as
>>>>>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the next transient in items. But, what they actually do is
>>>>>>>>>>>> move to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the start of the next or previous item. I don't see how
>>>>>>>>>>>> transients
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> involved at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody understand that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>> Smart"<csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers"<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there. You have the general idea. In terms of audio, a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transient is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a very short high peak in the wave form. Think of a loud hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clap, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just about any other sound that has a sharp loud attack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:58 PM 11/18/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at this list of hot keys, could somebody define
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what is meant by the word "transient"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know what this meant when I was in engineering school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I am getting the idea that this term might have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redefined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for pop culture. What it meant was, abrupt changes in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form. So, for example, if you had a clip that contained a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since mostly silence exists in that track between drum hits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practically every drum hit would be defined as a transient,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it represents an abrupt change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, if it was a mix of many instruments, those drum hits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may not turn up as transients, depending on amplitude,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might blend in enough with the surrounding mix, and didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so constituted more of a continuous wave form.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what does Reaper mean by Transient?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the explanation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Indigo"<33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers"<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] ReaAccess and Reaper Shortcuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a list of shortcuts I found in the RWP archives:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mix of reaper and reaAccess shortcut keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important HotKeys:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note: context menues are widely implimented throughout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can access them using your Applications key. In addition,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ReaAccess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expands the availability of options in many situations if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add CTRL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or Shift when pressing Applications. Until an in-depth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written, have fun experimenting with adding those CTRL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Shift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modifiers in different areas, you'll be amazed at how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desired action was only a couple of keystrokes away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+N File -> New project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+P Options -> Preferences...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+T Track -> Insert new track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+Delete Track -> Remove selected tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Down Track: Go to next track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+Down Track: Go to next track (leaving other tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selected)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Up Track: Go to previous track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+Up Track: Go to previous track (leaving other tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selected)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F9 Track: Solo/unsolo selected tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+F9 Track: Mute/unmute selected tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+F9 Track: View I/O for current track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+F9 Track: Toggle record arm for last touched
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / Track: Toggle record arm for selected track(s)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End Transport: Go to end of project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Transport: Go to start of project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Space Transport: Play (with time selection skipping)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Space Transport: Play/pause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Space Transport: Play/stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+R Transport: Record
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caps Lock Transport: tap tempo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Page Up Go back one beat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+Page Up Go back one beat with selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Page Up Go back one measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+Page Up Go back one measure with selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Page Down Go forward one beat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+Page Down Go forward one beat with selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Page Down Go forward one measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+Page Down Go forward one measure with selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Home Go to start of current measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+End Go to start of next measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+Right Item navigation: Move cursor to next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transient in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selected items
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Right Item navigation: Move cursor to next transient in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selected items
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Left Item navigation: Move cursor to previous transient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+Left Item navigation: Move cursor to previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+1 Markers: Add/move marker 1 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+2 Markers: Add/move marker 2 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+3 Markers: Add/move marker 3 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+4 Markers: Add/move marker 4 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+5 Markers: Add/move marker 5 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+6 Markers: Add/move marker 6 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+7 Markers: Add/move marker 7 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+8 Markers: Add/move marker 8 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+9 Markers: Add/move marker 9 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+0 Markers: Add/move marker 10 to play/edit cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Shift+C Markers: Create measure from time selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (detect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tempo)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 Markers: Go to marker 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Markers: Go to marker 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 Markers: Go to marker 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Markers: Go to marker 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 Markers: Go to marker 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 Markers: Go to marker 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Markers: Go to marker 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Markers: Go to marker 8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 Markers: Go to marker 9
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 Markers: Go to marker 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tab and Shift + Tab virtual editing mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ Markers: Go to previous marker/project start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ] Markers: Go to next marker/project start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Home Move edit cursor to start of current measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+End Move edit cursor to start of next measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Left Track: Nudge pan for selected tracks left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Right Track: Nudge pan for selected tracks right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Down Track: Nudge volume for selected tracks down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Up Track: Nudge volume for selected tracks up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Shift+Down Track: Nudge volume for master track down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+Shift+Up Track: Nudge volume for master track up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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