[RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable inreaper4with the latest verssion of system access?

Thu Nov 15 23:00:16 EST 2012

Hi & Greetings from Queensland

Okay, so I shot of a quick email to Seratek about the 'Non seeing aspect' of 
System Access & REAPER, and they want to download the software and take a 
look....

They are not promising anything at the moment, but at least tis a start....

Kind regards

David P Shortland
DragonScore Productions

-----Original Message----- 
From: Patrick Perdue
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 9:25 AM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable 
inreaper4with the latest verssion of system access?

Yep, any screen reader with an off-screen model, I.E. Jaws and Window-eyes 
can see it with their respective cursors. And, as I said previously, all 
this can be seen in the tab order with any screen reader using Windows XP. 
Explorer for Windows 7, and I assume Vista as well, seems to be what breaks 
that.

On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:58 PM, "David P Shortland" <dragamilov at comcen.com.au> 
wrote:

> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
>
> My apologies to start with! As I am not an NVDA Officianado I did not even 
> guess that there was more to this Dialog Box....
>
> Now I am left wondering, just how good System Access really is or is not?
>
> For both its Access types, both Normal & Virtual Mouse, to miss such a 
> portion as this on a Standard Dialog Box leaves one in some amazement....
>
> I will be pursueing this further with Seratek! This is just not good 
> enough!
>
> May I ask if the JAWS users see this extra material?
>
> Kind regards
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Perdue
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:25 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable in 
> reaper4with the latest verssion of system access?
>
> I have the same issue. I posted asking this question a few weeks ago, but 
> never got anywhere. I can successfully save projects to their own 
> directories with custom format, copying all media to directory, etc. with 
> NVDA, but have yet to manage this with System Access. It has something to 
> do with the way Windows 7's version of explorer works, as the additional 
> options show up in the tab order in XP, but not Windows 7. I can get to 
> them using NVDA's object navigation, but can't seem to find the stuff at 
> all in System Access.
> If you want to get to those other options in the save as dialogue with 
> NVDA, tab to the file name edit box, then go up one level (NVDA+numpad 8, 
> or NVDA+shift+I with the laptop layout,) which will show "create directory 
> for project" and all the other stuff. You'll need to use the previous and 
> next object commands to move around in this dialogue, and NVDA+enter to 
> activate checkboxes and the "format..." button, used for converting all 
> files in the project to a specific format (I save everything in flac 
> myself,) since they're not in the tab order, but it works. If anyone knows 
> how to get to these options using System Access, I'd love to know about 
> it. I've tried virtual mouse mode, which seems to give about the same 
> result as NVDA's flat review, which also doesn't show those options.
>
> On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Like I've said, I work very simply in Reaper, but I just let saved 
>> Projects and project files go to the default folder, which I find in 
>> Start Menu/My Documents.
>>
>> So far, I don't find any advantage to looking for them elsewhere, but I'm 
>> open to be convinced.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/2012 6:26 AM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>> Hi & Greetings from a Windy Queensland
>>>
>>> I presume that the SaveAs Dialog Box that appears for REAPER is the
>>> standard dialog box.
>>>
>>> I have the system that you describe... Win64bit with System Access and
>>> this is the Tab order for the SaveAs Dialog Box...
>>>
>>> FileName , Edit Combo Box
>>> Save As Type , Drop Down List
>>> ToolBar , Hide Folders Button
>>> Save Button
>>> Cancel Button
>>> ToolBar , DeskTop Split Button
>>> Search , Search Box
>>> Explorer Pane , Organize Button , Organize this Foldrs Contents
>>> Tree
>>> Items View
>>> Name & Date Modified & Type & Size all with Split Buttons accessed by
>>> Left Right Cursor
>>>
>>> NVDA does exactly the same, but with a couple of different names here
>>> and there...
>>>
>>> I think what you are looking for is found in the Project Settings...
>>> which is under the File Menu.
>>>
>>> Tis in there that you can set your Project Directory and the path for
>>> all its accompanying audio...
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> David P Shortland
>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: trahern culver
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: [RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable in reaper
>>> 4with the latest verssion of system access?
>>>
>>> hey all i'm running windows7 64 bit with reaper 4 and the latest version
>>> of system access, i went to to the save as dialogue and tried to reach
>>> the create a sub directory and move audio files check boxes there exact
>>> names escape me. any way the point is i tried to reach them by normally
>>> pressing tab i even tried the verchual mouse mode but system access
>>> didn't see them at all am i doing some thing wrong? or is it a bug? your
>>> help with this question would be most welcome.
>>>
>>> kind regards trahern.
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