[RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable in reaper4with the latest verssion of system access?

[Patrick Perdue]

Yep, any screen reader with an off-screen model, I.E. Jaws and Window-eyes can see it with their respective cursors. And, as I said previously, all this can be seen in the tab order with any screen reader using Windows XP. Explorer for Windows 7, and I assume Vista as well, seems to be what breaks that.

On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:58 PM, "David P Shortland" <dragamilov at comcen.com.au> wrote:

> Hi & Greetings from Down Under
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> My apologies to start with! As I am not an NVDA Officianado I did not even guess that there was more to this Dialog Box....
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> Now I am left wondering, just how good System Access really is or is not?
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> For both its Access types, both Normal & Virtual Mouse, to miss such a portion as this on a Standard Dialog Box leaves one in some amazement....
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> I will be pursueing this further with Seratek! This is just not good enough!
> 
> May I ask if the JAWS users see this extra material?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
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> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Perdue
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:25 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable in reaper4with the latest verssion of system access?
> 
> I have the same issue. I posted asking this question a few weeks ago, but never got anywhere. I can successfully save projects to their own directories with custom format, copying all media to directory, etc. with NVDA, but have yet to manage this with System Access. It has something to do with the way Windows 7's version of explorer works, as the additional options show up in the tab order in XP, but not Windows 7. I can get to them using NVDA's object navigation, but can't seem to find the stuff at all in System Access.
> If you want to get to those other options in the save as dialogue with NVDA, tab to the file name edit box, then go up one level (NVDA+numpad 8, or NVDA+shift+I with the laptop layout,) which will show "create directory for project" and all the other stuff. You'll need to use the previous and next object commands to move around in this dialogue, and NVDA+enter to activate checkboxes and the "format..." button, used for converting all files in the project to a specific format (I save everything in flac myself,) since they're not in the tab order, but it works. If anyone knows how to get to these options using System Access, I'd love to know about it. I've tried virtual mouse mode, which seems to give about the same result as NVDA's flat review, which also doesn't show those options.
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> On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
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>> Like I've said, I work very simply in Reaper, but I just let saved Projects and project files go to the default folder, which I find in Start Menu/My Documents.
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>> So far, I don't find any advantage to looking for them elsewhere, but I'm open to be convinced.
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>> On 11/15/2012 6:26 AM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>> Hi & Greetings from a Windy Queensland
>>> 
>>> I presume that the SaveAs Dialog Box that appears for REAPER is the
>>> standard dialog box.
>>> 
>>> I have the system that you describe... Win64bit with System Access and
>>> this is the Tab order for the SaveAs Dialog Box...
>>> 
>>> FileName , Edit Combo Box
>>> Save As Type , Drop Down List
>>> ToolBar , Hide Folders Button
>>> Save Button
>>> Cancel Button
>>> ToolBar , DeskTop Split Button
>>> Search , Search Box
>>> Explorer Pane , Organize Button , Organize this Foldrs Contents
>>> Tree
>>> Items View
>>> Name & Date Modified & Type & Size all with Split Buttons accessed by
>>> Left Right Cursor
>>> 
>>> NVDA does exactly the same, but with a couple of different names here
>>> and there...
>>> 
>>> I think what you are looking for is found in the Project Settings...
>>> which is under the File Menu.
>>> 
>>> Tis in there that you can set your Project Directory and the path for
>>> all its accompanying audio...
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> David P Shortland
>>> DragonScore Productions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: trahern culver
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: [RWP] some parts of the save as dialogue inaccessable in reaper
>>> 4with the latest verssion of system access?
>>> 
>>> hey all i'm running windows7 64 bit with reaper 4 and the latest version
>>> of system access, i went to to the save as dialogue and tried to reach
>>> the create a sub directory and move audio files check boxes there exact
>>> names escape me. any way the point is i tried to reach them by normally
>>> pressing tab i even tried the verchual mouse mode but system access
>>> didn't see them at all am i doing some thing wrong? or is it a bug? your
>>> help with this question would be most welcome.
>>> 
>>> kind regards trahern.
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