[RWP] And the Reaper access wiki is live

Mon Mar 26 05:02:51 EDT 2012

Hi Colin,
When performing that little enable midi device work around, you need  to 
find the device name at the number pad; then  right click to bring up 
the configure midi device dialog.
Maybe you could go through the midi device enabling actions again and 
write out a tiny tutorial, with the required Jaws commands listed?

I think that 1 little stumbling block is the qwerkyest  procedure in Reaper.

  Screen reader specific procedures don't seem to be needed anywhere else.
I've looked at many places with Jaws 13 demo, Wineyes and NVDA, and 
what's displayed seems about the same.

Hoping they will apply for someone somewhere, I always relate whatever 
work arounds I discover.
For instance, earlier today in Reaper version 4.21, trying to get the 
advanced track options menu where stereo must  be selected to avoid a 
mono audio recording; I noticed that after pressing ctrl+right arrow on 
the track; which normally moves to the first recorded item on that 
track, of course I heard No Item Found, because nothing was recorded.
And yet, just as if an item was present, I first pressed ctrl+up arrow 
to allow menus to display;then pressed the applications key; to get the 
extended track properties menu, which begins with the words:
Monitor Input M.
  if I'm too slow to press the applications key I get the wrong menu.
Once I'm quick enough at pressing the applications key I arrow down and 
press enter on Input Stereo, then press enter again until I return to 
the track view, and Reaper then records audio in stereo
If someone else has found an easier method of switching from mono to 
stereo audiorecording, please tell me.
As in other Reaper versions, though, once I get that extended track 
options menu to open, ctrl+up arrow doesn't seem to be required again.
Menus seem to display  from then on in that session.
Now, I've got to go back to that same situation and learn how to always 
get that other item edit menu to display

Indigo L
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On 3/26/2012 1:20 AM, colin McDonald wrote:
> I enabled the midi devices pretty much the same way as you did in win
> eyes, except with the JFW version of those commands.
> Essentially you can select the device you want in the combo box, then go
> to jaws cursor, arrow around until you find that devices name, left or
> right click, I don't remember which, using the mouse buttons on the num
> pad or your laptops mouse buttons, and it'll open the config window.
> Once that window is opened, you have no problem with using regular tab
> and so on.
> Not really a hassle if your used to doing things with JFW.
>
> regards
> Colin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] And the Reaper access wiki is live
>
>
>> Jim, there's the little hassle about getting midi devices enabled in
>> Reaper's options/preferences.
>> Using my Window-eyes method; about arrowing to the device name, then
>> routing that to the pc cursor at the number pad, then finding the
>> device name at the number pad and right clicking it, then going back
>> to the arrow keys where you will find a configure device dialog.
>> You press enter on the configure dialog, then; go to the tab key, add
>> check marks to configure this device for midi messages, and sometimes,
>> configure this device for controller messages.
>> We have many Jaws users, so they're obviously enabling their midi
>> devices somehow.
>> It would be a real blessing for beginning Reaper users if you would
>> please go to that midi device edit box and write a neat method in Jaws
>> terms?
>> I am a beginning driver in Jaws 13 demo, but if it was a car I'd
>> advise everyone in my path to head for the hills! smile.
>>
>> I don't have any idea how NVDA users are enabling midi devices.
>> I use NVDA every day for email, I'm on it this second, but I've yet to
>> get 1 little bit of screen information from its flat review.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Indigo L
>>
>>
>> On 3/25/2012 9:40 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> This is a problem, creating directions that are screen reader
>>> independent. Frankly, if you choose to get right down to which key to
>>> press, that's probably impossible.
>>> And we don't really want documentation that is complicated by lots of,
>>> if you are using jaws, if you are using NVDA, if you are using blinkies
>>> bit blat, etc etc.
>>> That interferes with the flow of concept, which really troubles limited
>>> brains like mine.
>>> NVDA does have flat mode, which does give some limited ability to do
>>> mouse clicks on things. But, NVDA users know all about that.
>>>
>>> So, maybe if we just generalize those statements a bit, we can get
>>> around it.
>>> Indigo, As for your statements about limited time and energy, man oh
>>> man, can I relate to that in spades. I'm with ya, brother.
>>> And I have a great dog, a golden retriever who just had a bath. And, I
>>> have my priorities. <grin>
>>>
>>> But, I'm a jaws user. So, if you have some things you want me to review,
>>> and edit for generalization, I can sure put it in the queue here.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] And the Reaper access wiki is live
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kerry, I've been keeping my hundreds of notes and tips on running
>>>> ReaAccess as .txt text files, or .rtf files, with titles that mean
>>>> something to me, and hopefully others.
>>>> I'll try some basic getting started infos and learn how it goes with
>>>> the mark up language.
>>>> But, if I just don't have the time to post them in this exact markup
>>>> format, and still have time to make music, and take part in my family
>>>> life, I don't know what I'can do.
>>>> My tiny bit of energy is stretched very thin as it is.
>>>> I have been looking at Reaper and ReaAccess with Jaws, NVDA and
>>>> Window-Eyes, and I find there are places I don't comprehend how to get
>>>> a few of the basic things done in Jaws or NVDA.
>>>> For Example, When configuring one's midi interface, the word Enabled
>>>> must appear after the name of the midi interface.
>>>> Now I know very well how to get Enabled to appear while on
>>>> Window-Eyes, but I can't make out how it's done with Jaws or NVDA.
>>>> I'll put in my little procedure that works for Window-Eyes at that
>>>> basic configuration instance; and someone better at operating Jaws
>>>> will need to provide the details on how it's done in Jaws.
>>>> All you Jaws experts are running Reaper, so you must know how you got
>>>> your midi interface enabled, right?
>>>> Other than that single midi device configuration situation, I don't
>>>> find significant differences in what Jaws, Window-Eyes or NVDA sees,
>>>> at least with NVDA's tab key and arrows, though I can't get enough
>>>> information from NVDA because it doesn't have Jaws and Wineyes-style
>>>> PC cursor screen information available at the number pad.
>>>> And yet, Patrick Perdue uses NVDA exclusively in Reaper, and we have
>>>> System Access users as well.
>>>> So, I guess I'm saying that I had no idea wiki entries would be so
>>>> exacting, but I'll try, but if I can't get my entries in the wiki as
>>>> neat and in the exact format required, and expressed for all
>>>> screenreaders, and still manage to find time to make some music, play
>>>> with my dog, and the rest of life, I may need to zip up all my notes
>>>> on running Reaper and send them to someone who has more wiki talents
>>>> to post them than I do
>>>> Or, I'll post them zipped on SendSpace, and insert a link in our wiki,
>>>> or or in pages on a friend's FaceBook, for anyone to use them as they
>>>> please.
>>>> Indigo L
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2012 6:20 AM, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>>>>> This is a note to say that the Reaper access wiki is live and ready
>>>>> for
>>>>> people to start editing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It can be found at
>>>>> http://www.cucat.org/reacwiki
>>>>> The edit password is reaper in lowercase and just as soon as I figure
>>>>> out how to create a page with this information I'll link to the
>>>>> passwored page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Editing is relatively easy, here is a really quick summary but you
>>>>> really should read the basic editing guide.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lines that start with spaces like this are pre-formatted text and will
>>>>> not be wrapped.
>>>>> Note you'll need to read by character or set punctuation to
>>>>> most/all to
>>>>> see the following:
>>>>> !heading this is a level 1
>>>>> !!this is a level 2
>>>>> !!!this is a level 3
>>>>>
>>>>> * this is the first item in an unordered list
>>>>> * this is the second item.
>>>>>
>>>>> # this is item 1 in a numbered list
>>>>> # This is item 2 in a numbered list.
>>>>>
>>>>> double backslash \\ will insert a line break.
>>>>> A bare URL like
>>>>> http://www.reaccess.com/ will link off to another website.
>>>>>
>>>>> [[http://www.reaccess.com/|reaccess homepage]]
>>>>> puts the link in and changes the link text.
>>>>>
>>>>> To create a new page put something in like
>>>>> [[Getting started with Reaper]]
>>>>> a questionmark will show up next to the link after save, hit enter to
>>>>> create the new page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please put your names on edits or I'll have to make author names
>>>>> manditory.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope we all find this resource useful. If this really takes off I'm
>>>>> happy to either buy a domain or change pointers to the wiki or tar
>>>>> it up
>>>>> for someone else to host.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to add links to Cavi's reaper presentations if people think
>>>>> that
>>>>> belongs on the wiki, CAVI did 3 presentations on how to get started
>>>>> with
>>>>> Reaper 3.77 and reaccess.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>
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