[RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.

Sun Mar 25 17:12:54 EDT 2012

maybe an easier method of updating/rewriting reaaccess would be using Auto 
Hotkey talking to Reaper thru OSC; the Auto Hotkey scripting language is 
fairly simple and you can generate an executable file from the project.
best
Roy.
http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Cc: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.


> What advantages do we get with osc  at present?  I'm sticking to 3.78 
> until I have a compelling reason to do otherwise.
>
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:36 PM, indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to implement the open a wav file in an external audio editor, 
>> in Options/preferences.
>> Sonar has that; and Reaper also should have close integration with Sound 
>> Forge.
>>
>> Well, so far; in version 4.20, I've only checked out the main midi edits 
>> I'm working on at the moment, and looked with Jaws 13 demo, NVDA and 
>> Wineyes; to be sure that Roy's ctrl+up arrow still unlocks the 
>> Applications key menu.
>> Up to 4.20, I've been habbily working in Reaper version 3.78 in XP.
>> I did install version 4.15 on this ancient online machine, but only to be 
>> sure major features hadn't left me too far behind so I wouldn't be 
>> totally misinforming someone.
>> But, with OSC here; I've got to try that.
>> Tonight I'll download 4.21 and install it over my old friend, 3.78.
>> Don't throw old installers away, just in case something gets broken.
>> Indigo L
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/2012 11:00 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> grin.
>>> Yes, I know the feeling! If it's good ... dot dot dot.
>>>
>>> But, did you ever think, maybe his selections aren't that good. <grin>
>>>
>>> BTW, so far, can't make reaper just play the selected region in 4.21.
>>> but, I sure di din 3.77. Still puzzling that one out.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.
>>>
>>>
>>> That did seem much easier, Patrick, and he admitted toggling loop
>>> onplayed the selected portion of the wave file, but only wanted to hear
>>> it once, for some reason. smile.
>>> If it's good, I like to hear it again, If it's good, I like to hear it
>>> again, If it's good, I like to hear it again, If it's good, I like to
>>> hear it again,
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's good, I like to hear it again,
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's good, I like to hear it again,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/24/2012 5:40 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>> Easier way to do it:
>>>>
>>>> Set repeat with control r, then make a selection in Reaper. As long as
>>>> a time selection is active, it will loop that selection. There is
>>>> probably an action that makes this more useful if you don't want a 
>>>> loop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:52 PM, indigo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This was a proposed solution to the question: How to play a selected
>>>>> part of a wave file in Reaper.
>>>>> It's not saying you must close Reaper, then open Sound Forge to play
>>>>> a part of a wave file, but play the file without leaving Reaper.
>>>>> The instructions let you select a part of a wave file, pop into Sound
>>>>> Forge without leaving reaper, play the file, then pop back into
>>>>> Reaper and continue working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Press ctrl+P to go to (Options> Preferences) and the very last item is
>>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>>> of your choice; like your Sony Sound Forge.
>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click ; will pop up 
>>>>> a
>>>>>> menu) and
>>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.
>>>>> Ctrl+Alt+E will do the same.
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/24/2012 12:41 PM, david hindmarch wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, thanks I use sound forge but I also wanted to use reaper.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo"<33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers"<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm on this very area of learning in Reaper, so I googled the Cockos
>>>>>> forums for playing selected part of wave file, where users hit the
>>>>>> forums for answers, where there's almost always somebody who knows.
>>>>>> Here's a snip of the forum with someone asking a similar related
>>>>>> question
>>>>>> It takes a bit of digging, but answers are in there somewhere; like
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> answer, how to get a wave file or selected portion of a wave file to
>>>>>> play:, by taking it to Sound Forge or other wave editor:
>>>>>> When you're are finished and close Sound Forge, the file apparently
>>>>>> reappears where it was in Reaper.
>>>>>> snip:
>>>>>> It's in (Options> Preferences) and the very last item is
>>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>>> of your choice... I have Sony Sound Forge
>>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click (will pop up 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> menu) and
>>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.. yes Ctrl+Alt+E will do the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> snip.
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>> Quote::
>>>>>> In Reaper v3.xx I could open a .wav file and edit it by 
>>>>>> double-clicking
>>>>>> on the track.
>>>>>> It would open in Audition 3 and I could edit it as needed.
>>>>>> This doesn't work in v4, how do I select a track in Reaper 4 so it
>>>>>> opens
>>>>>> in Audition?
>>>>>> Sidebar question -- I use Audition for only a handful of things: 
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> pitch, change
>>>>>> tempo, fade-in, fade-out, cut-copy-and-paste, save parts of .wav
>>>>>> file to
>>>>>> new wave
>>>>>> file, fairly simple stuff. Does Reaper 4 do all of these things as 
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> as or better
>>>>>> than Adobe Audition? I would love to abandon AA and do all of my
>>>>>> editing
>>>>>> in Reaper.
>>>>>> thanks...
>>>>>> Nick Morris
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 11:50 AM
>>>>>> so abandon it, and do it all in reaper.
>>>>>> Nick Morris
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 11:51 AM
>>>>>> and yes it does all of these things
>>>>>> Veech
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 02:27 PM
>>>>>> and yes it does all of these things
>>>>>> ahh, but does it do them as well as AA?
>>>>>> Nick Morris
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 02:38 PM
>>>>>> as well if not better
>>>>>> alanofoz
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 03:33 PM
>>>>>> Ctrl+Alt+E
>>>>>> Johnnny-5
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 05:42 PM
>>>>>> @Veech, I don't believe Reaper has a built in wav editor. you must 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> had Reaper
>>>>>> 3.X setup to open AA.. It's in (Options> Preferences) and the very 
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> item is
>>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>>> of your choice... Also I don't know anything about AA BUT I have Sony
>>>>>> Sound Forge
>>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click (will pop up 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> menu) and
>>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.. yes Ctrl+Alt+E will do the
>>>>>> same.. Reaper
>>>>>> can do alot of this but not quite as robust as a true wave editor 
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> as AA and
>>>>>> Sound Forge.. Hope this helps.. :-)
>>>>>> -J-
>>>>>> Veech
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 09:45 PM
>>>>>> @Veech, I don't believe Reaper has a built in wav editor. you must 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> had Reaper
>>>>>> 3.X setup to open AA.. It's in (Options> Preferences) and the very 
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> item is
>>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>>> of your choice... Also I don't know anything about AA BUT I have Sony
>>>>>> Sound Forge
>>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click (will pop up 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> menu) and
>>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.. yes Ctrl+Alt+E will do the
>>>>>> same.. Reaper
>>>>>> can do alot of this but not quite as robust as a true wave editor 
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> as AA and
>>>>>> Sound Forge.. Hope this helps.. :-)
>>>>>> -J-
>>>>>> I don't recall setting v3.x to open AA, I think it must have done so 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> finding my
>>>>>> XP default setting. I will play around with Reaper's .wav editing
>>>>>> function, maybe
>>>>>> it'll be good enough for my needs.
>>>>>> Thanks for your response!
>>>>>> bilsner
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 10:05 PM
>>>>>> I don't recall setting v3.x to open AA, I think it must have done so 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> finding my
>>>>>> XP default setting. I will play around with Reaper's .wav editing
>>>>>> function, maybe
>>>>>> it'll be good enough for my needs.
>>>>>> Thanks for your response!
>>>>>> If you were fine using audition before (however it ended up being 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> editor) why
>>>>>> not just set it up again, it's just a few simple clicks my friend.
>>>>>> OPTIONS> PREFERENCES> EXTERNAL EDITORS (scroll to bottom to find 
>>>>>> this)
>>>>>>> ADD>
>>>>>> Use browse button to locate your audition .exe in program files> OK
>>>>>> That's it. Now to open audio item in audition (or whatever external
>>>>>> editor you wish)
>>>>>> there are 2 ways (and yes they are different from reaper 3.x). You 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> either [CTRL/ALT/E]
>>>>>> which I do not recommend as it doesn't give an option to open a copy
>>>>>> (found this
>>>>>> out just recently myself oops) or right click the audio item, select
>>>>>> "open items
>>>>>> in editor" and choose "open item copies in audition" ... ofc you can
>>>>>> open the original
>>>>>> in there as well if you wish.
>>>>>> You know the rest... edit, then save and your audio item appears
>>>>>> back in
>>>>>> the project.
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> Veech
>>>>>> 08-19-2011, 10:19 PM
>>>>>> If you were fine using audition before (however it ended up being 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> editor) why
>>>>>> not just set it up again, it's just a few simple clicks my friend.
>>>>>> OPTIONS> PREFERENCES> EXTERNAL EDITORS (scroll to bottom to find 
>>>>>> this)
>>>>>>> ADD>
>>>>>> Use browse button to locate your audition .exe in program files> OK
>>>>>> That's it. Now to open audio item in audition (or whatever external
>>>>>> editor you wish)
>>>>>> there are 2 ways (and yes they are different from reaper 3.x). You 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> either [CTRL/ALT/E]
>>>>>> which I do not recommend as it doesn't give an option to open a copy
>>>>>> (found this
>>>>>> out just recently myself oops) or right click the audio item, select
>>>>>> "open items
>>>>>> in editor" and choose "open item copies in audition" ... ofc you can
>>>>>> open the original
>>>>>> in there as well if you wish.
>>>>>> You know the rest... edit, then save and your audio item appears
>>>>>> back in
>>>>>> the project.
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> That helps a lot, thank you. As good as AA is, I don't like it
>>>>>> nearly as
>>>>>> much as
>>>>>> Reaper. AA is a resource hog and is unstable. It will lock up and 
>>>>>> crash
>>>>>> after 30
>>>>>> - 40 minutes which of course is very irritating. Reaper has never
>>>>>> crashed on me,
>>>>>> it is so streamlined and efficient. I would love to say goodbye to AA
>>>>>> but it is very
>>>>>> robust and does a lot of things really well. I just wish it were more
>>>>>> stable.
>>>>>> I think it will depend on the quality of pitch and tempo shifting in
>>>>>> Reaper vs AA.
>>>>>> If it is acceptable, then I'll put AA on the shelf. If not, then I'll
>>>>>> follow your
>>>>>> steps to use AA as my default wave file editor.
>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>> bilsner
>>>>>> 08-20-2011, 12:01 AM
>>>>>> I'm fairly new to reaper and I am using an external editor to 
>>>>>> transpose
>>>>>> audio by
>>>>>> semitones as I can't find a way to do it reaper without it
>>>>>> stretching to
>>>>>> retain the
>>>>>> original tempo... unless I do it by alt dragging the item in the
>>>>>> arrange
>>>>>> window.
>>>>>> This will produce a pitch shift with no stretching (if you deselect 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> stretch to
>>>>>> tempo in item properties but it's not exact so fairly useless if I 
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to transpose
>>>>>> a clip by a set amount of semitones. Frustratingly, the numeric 
>>>>>> option
>>>>>> in item properties
>>>>>> still stretches the audio even with the stretch option deselected. I
>>>>>> could probably
>>>>>> do without the external editor if there was a way to shift audio 
>>>>>> clips
>>>>>> by set musical
>>>>>> amounts without the stretch.
>>>>>> If you know a way, let me know please *hope*
>>>>>> EricM
>>>>>> 08-20-2011, 12:19 AM
>>>>>> I can't find a way to do it reaper without it stretching to retain 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> original tempo...
>>>>>> shift+9& shift+0 are the default keys I think, otherwise go in
>>>>>> Actions> Action List, find actions "pitch item up (down) one 
>>>>>> semitone"
>>>>>> and remap it to your favorite keyboard shortcut.
>>>>>> e
>>>>>> bilsner
>>>>>> 08-20-2011, 07:38 AM
>>>>>> shift+9& shift+0 are the default keys I think, otherwise go in
>>>>>> Actions> Action List, find actions "pitch item up (down) one 
>>>>>> semitone"
>>>>>> and remap it to your favorite keyboard shortcut.
>>>>>> e
>>>>>> I'm afraid that doesn't work.... you change the pitch but the audio
>>>>>> stays exactly
>>>>>> the same length and so must be stretching/compressing :(
>>>>>> xpander
>>>>>> 08-20-2011, 11:14 AM
>>>>>> Change the pitch of an item, and let it stretch?
>>>>>> If you have not changed your shortcut keys;
>>>>>> Shift + 5 steps up in semitones
>>>>>> Shift + 4 steps down in semitones
>>>>>> Not working from the numpad, btw.
>>>>>> Or do like EricM suggested and go to Actions list, run the actions 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> there or
>>>>>> set them up how you'd like.
>>>>>> Actions> Action List, find actions "pitch item up (down) one 
>>>>>> semitone"
>>>>>> and remap it to your favorite keyboard shortcut.
>>>>>> bilsner
>>>>>> 08-20-2011, 11:21 AM
>>>>>> Change the pitch of an item, and let it stretch?
>>>>>> If you have not changed your shortcut keys;
>>>>>> Shift + 5 steps up in semitones
>>>>>> Shift + 4 steps down in semitones
>>>>>> Not working from the numpad, btw.
>>>>>> Or do like EricM suggested and go to Actions list, run the actions 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> there or
>>>>>> set them up how you'd like.
>>>>>> yeah thx I have found it altho it's 5 and 6 not 4 and 5 :)
>>>>>> xpander
>>>>>> 08-20-2011, 02:53 PM
>>>>>> Whoops sorry, right you are, shift + 5& 6 it is for the semitones. 
>>>>>> Now
>>>>>> who messed
>>>>>> my defaults... ;)
>>>>>> ChickenPie4tea
>>>>>> 08-21-2011, 12:39 AM
>>>>>> I've never found an editor that cleans out background noise better 
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> Audition.
>>>>>> I keep it for that alone. I have even tried Ozone and it wasnt as 
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> as the built
>>>>>> in adobe tool.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/24/2012 7:39 AM, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>>>>>>> There is no known way to do this that Iam aware of.
>>>>>>> Audacity can do this and is also multi-track, 2.0 with enhanced
>>>>>>> accessibility has been released and is free and worth a look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>> On 24/03/2012 7:21 PM, david hindmarch wrote:
>>>>>>>> Can any one please help. I want to play the selected part of a wave
>>>>>>>> file in reaper just as you can do in sound forge and sonar.
>>>>>>>> There are a number of ways to select a portion of a wave file in
>>>>>>>> reaper but I don't know how to simply play the selected area of the
>>>>>>>> file using a key command. I know that Alt plus space bar will skip
>>>>>>>> over the selected material and that it is possible to hear the
>>>>>>>> selected material by pressing the set repeat key, but I only want 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> hear the selected part of the file played once. If any one knows 
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> to do this could they direct me to the right key command.
>>>>>>>> Best wishes David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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