[RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.

Sun Mar 25 08:41:48 EDT 2012

What advantages do we get with osc  at present?  I'm sticking to 3.78 until I have a compelling reason to do otherwise. 

On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:36 PM, indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:

> I'm going to implement the open a wav file in an external audio editor, in Options/preferences.
> Sonar has that; and Reaper also should have close integration with Sound Forge.
> 
> Well, so far; in version 4.20, I've only checked out the main midi edits I'm working on at the moment, and looked with Jaws 13 demo, NVDA and Wineyes; to be sure that Roy's ctrl+up arrow still unlocks the Applications key menu.
> Up to 4.20, I've been habbily working in Reaper version 3.78 in XP.
> I did install version 4.15 on this ancient online machine, but only to be sure major features hadn't left me too far behind so I wouldn't be totally misinforming someone.
> But, with OSC here; I've got to try that.
> Tonight I'll download 4.21 and install it over my old friend, 3.78.
> Don't throw old installers away, just in case something gets broken.
> Indigo L
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/24/2012 11:00 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>> grin.
>> Yes, I know the feeling! If it's good ... dot dot dot.
>> 
>> But, did you ever think, maybe his selections aren't that good. <grin>
>> 
>> BTW, so far, can't make reaper just play the selected region in 4.21.
>> but, I sure di din 3.77. Still puzzling that one out.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.
>> 
>> 
>> That did seem much easier, Patrick, and he admitted toggling loop
>> onplayed the selected portion of the wave file, but only wanted to hear
>> it once, for some reason. smile.
>> If it's good, I like to hear it again, If it's good, I like to hear it
>> again, If it's good, I like to hear it again, If it's good, I like to
>> hear it again,
>> 
>> 
>> If it's good, I like to hear it again,
>> 
>> 
>> If it's good, I like to hear it again,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/24/2012 5:40 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>> Easier way to do it:
>>> 
>>> Set repeat with control r, then make a selection in Reaper. As long as
>>> a time selection is active, it will loop that selection. There is
>>> probably an action that makes this more useful if you don't want a loop.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:52 PM, indigo wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This was a proposed solution to the question: How to play a selected
>>>> part of a wave file in Reaper.
>>>> It's not saying you must close Reaper, then open Sound Forge to play
>>>> a part of a wave file, but play the file without leaving Reaper.
>>>> The instructions let you select a part of a wave file, pop into Sound
>>>> Forge without leaving reaper, play the file, then pop back into
>>>> Reaper and continue working.
>>>> 
>>>> Press ctrl+P to go to (Options> Preferences) and the very last item is
>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>> of your choice; like your Sony Sound Forge.
>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click ; will pop up a
>>>>> menu) and
>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.
>>>> Ctrl+Alt+E will do the same.
>>>> Indigo L
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/24/2012 12:41 PM, david hindmarch wrote:
>>>>> Yes, thanks I use sound forge but I also wanted to use reaper.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo"<33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers"<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Playing a selected part of a wave file.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm on this very area of learning in Reaper, so I googled the Cockos
>>>>> forums for playing selected part of wave file, where users hit the
>>>>> forums for answers, where there's almost always somebody who knows.
>>>>> Here's a snip of the forum with someone asking a similar related
>>>>> question
>>>>> It takes a bit of digging, but answers are in there somewhere; like
>>>>> this
>>>>> answer, how to get a wave file or selected portion of a wave file to
>>>>> play:, by taking it to Sound Forge or other wave editor:
>>>>> When you're are finished and close Sound Forge, the file apparently
>>>>> reappears where it was in Reaper.
>>>>> snip:
>>>>> It's in (Options> Preferences) and the very last item is
>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>> of your choice... I have Sony Sound Forge
>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click (will pop up a
>>>>> menu) and
>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.. yes Ctrl+Alt+E will do the
>>>>> same
>>>>> snip.
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>> Quote::
>>>>> In Reaper v3.xx I could open a .wav file and edit it by double-clicking
>>>>> on the track.
>>>>> It would open in Audition 3 and I could edit it as needed.
>>>>> This doesn't work in v4, how do I select a track in Reaper 4 so it
>>>>> opens
>>>>> in Audition?
>>>>> Sidebar question -- I use Audition for only a handful of things: change
>>>>> pitch, change
>>>>> tempo, fade-in, fade-out, cut-copy-and-paste, save parts of .wav
>>>>> file to
>>>>> new wave
>>>>> file, fairly simple stuff. Does Reaper 4 do all of these things as well
>>>>> as or better
>>>>> than Adobe Audition? I would love to abandon AA and do all of my
>>>>> editing
>>>>> in Reaper.
>>>>> thanks...
>>>>> Nick Morris
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 11:50 AM
>>>>> so abandon it, and do it all in reaper.
>>>>> Nick Morris
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 11:51 AM
>>>>> and yes it does all of these things
>>>>> Veech
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 02:27 PM
>>>>> and yes it does all of these things
>>>>> ahh, but does it do them as well as AA?
>>>>> Nick Morris
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 02:38 PM
>>>>> as well if not better
>>>>> alanofoz
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 03:33 PM
>>>>> Ctrl+Alt+E
>>>>> Johnnny-5
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 05:42 PM
>>>>> @Veech, I don't believe Reaper has a built in wav editor. you must have
>>>>> had Reaper
>>>>> 3.X setup to open AA.. It's in (Options> Preferences) and the very last
>>>>> item is
>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>> of your choice... Also I don't know anything about AA BUT I have Sony
>>>>> Sound Forge
>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click (will pop up a
>>>>> menu) and
>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.. yes Ctrl+Alt+E will do the
>>>>> same.. Reaper
>>>>> can do alot of this but not quite as robust as a true wave editor such
>>>>> as AA and
>>>>> Sound Forge.. Hope this helps.. :-)
>>>>> -J-
>>>>> Veech
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 09:45 PM
>>>>> @Veech, I don't believe Reaper has a built in wav editor. you must have
>>>>> had Reaper
>>>>> 3.X setup to open AA.. It's in (Options> Preferences) and the very last
>>>>> item is
>>>>> where you setup Reaper to open a wave file in the wave editor
>>>>> of your choice... Also I don't know anything about AA BUT I have Sony
>>>>> Sound Forge
>>>>> setup to open wave file on double click or a right click (will pop up a
>>>>> menu) and
>>>>> you can select open wav in audio editor.. yes Ctrl+Alt+E will do the
>>>>> same.. Reaper
>>>>> can do alot of this but not quite as robust as a true wave editor such
>>>>> as AA and
>>>>> Sound Forge.. Hope this helps.. :-)
>>>>> -J-
>>>>> I don't recall setting v3.x to open AA, I think it must have done so by
>>>>> finding my
>>>>> XP default setting. I will play around with Reaper's .wav editing
>>>>> function, maybe
>>>>> it'll be good enough for my needs.
>>>>> Thanks for your response!
>>>>> bilsner
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 10:05 PM
>>>>> I don't recall setting v3.x to open AA, I think it must have done so by
>>>>> finding my
>>>>> XP default setting. I will play around with Reaper's .wav editing
>>>>> function, maybe
>>>>> it'll be good enough for my needs.
>>>>> Thanks for your response!
>>>>> If you were fine using audition before (however it ended up being your
>>>>> editor) why
>>>>> not just set it up again, it's just a few simple clicks my friend.
>>>>> OPTIONS> PREFERENCES> EXTERNAL EDITORS (scroll to bottom to find this)
>>>>>> ADD>
>>>>> Use browse button to locate your audition .exe in program files> OK
>>>>> That's it. Now to open audio item in audition (or whatever external
>>>>> editor you wish)
>>>>> there are 2 ways (and yes they are different from reaper 3.x). You can
>>>>> either [CTRL/ALT/E]
>>>>> which I do not recommend as it doesn't give an option to open a copy
>>>>> (found this
>>>>> out just recently myself oops) or right click the audio item, select
>>>>> "open items
>>>>> in editor" and choose "open item copies in audition" ... ofc you can
>>>>> open the original
>>>>> in there as well if you wish.
>>>>> You know the rest... edit, then save and your audio item appears
>>>>> back in
>>>>> the project.
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> Veech
>>>>> 08-19-2011, 10:19 PM
>>>>> If you were fine using audition before (however it ended up being your
>>>>> editor) why
>>>>> not just set it up again, it's just a few simple clicks my friend.
>>>>> OPTIONS> PREFERENCES> EXTERNAL EDITORS (scroll to bottom to find this)
>>>>>> ADD>
>>>>> Use browse button to locate your audition .exe in program files> OK
>>>>> That's it. Now to open audio item in audition (or whatever external
>>>>> editor you wish)
>>>>> there are 2 ways (and yes they are different from reaper 3.x). You can
>>>>> either [CTRL/ALT/E]
>>>>> which I do not recommend as it doesn't give an option to open a copy
>>>>> (found this
>>>>> out just recently myself oops) or right click the audio item, select
>>>>> "open items
>>>>> in editor" and choose "open item copies in audition" ... ofc you can
>>>>> open the original
>>>>> in there as well if you wish.
>>>>> You know the rest... edit, then save and your audio item appears
>>>>> back in
>>>>> the project.
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> That helps a lot, thank you. As good as AA is, I don't like it
>>>>> nearly as
>>>>> much as
>>>>> Reaper. AA is a resource hog and is unstable. It will lock up and crash
>>>>> after 30
>>>>> - 40 minutes which of course is very irritating. Reaper has never
>>>>> crashed on me,
>>>>> it is so streamlined and efficient. I would love to say goodbye to AA
>>>>> but it is very
>>>>> robust and does a lot of things really well. I just wish it were more
>>>>> stable.
>>>>> I think it will depend on the quality of pitch and tempo shifting in
>>>>> Reaper vs AA.
>>>>> If it is acceptable, then I'll put AA on the shelf. If not, then I'll
>>>>> follow your
>>>>> steps to use AA as my default wave file editor.
>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>> bilsner
>>>>> 08-20-2011, 12:01 AM
>>>>> I'm fairly new to reaper and I am using an external editor to transpose
>>>>> audio by
>>>>> semitones as I can't find a way to do it reaper without it
>>>>> stretching to
>>>>> retain the
>>>>> original tempo... unless I do it by alt dragging the item in the
>>>>> arrange
>>>>> window.
>>>>> This will produce a pitch shift with no stretching (if you deselect the
>>>>> stretch to
>>>>> tempo in item properties but it's not exact so fairly useless if I want
>>>>> to transpose
>>>>> a clip by a set amount of semitones. Frustratingly, the numeric option
>>>>> in item properties
>>>>> still stretches the audio even with the stretch option deselected. I
>>>>> could probably
>>>>> do without the external editor if there was a way to shift audio clips
>>>>> by set musical
>>>>> amounts without the stretch.
>>>>> If you know a way, let me know please *hope*
>>>>> EricM
>>>>> 08-20-2011, 12:19 AM
>>>>> I can't find a way to do it reaper without it stretching to retain the
>>>>> original tempo...
>>>>> shift+9& shift+0 are the default keys I think, otherwise go in
>>>>> Actions> Action List, find actions "pitch item up (down) one semitone"
>>>>> and remap it to your favorite keyboard shortcut.
>>>>> e
>>>>> bilsner
>>>>> 08-20-2011, 07:38 AM
>>>>> shift+9& shift+0 are the default keys I think, otherwise go in
>>>>> Actions> Action List, find actions "pitch item up (down) one semitone"
>>>>> and remap it to your favorite keyboard shortcut.
>>>>> e
>>>>> I'm afraid that doesn't work.... you change the pitch but the audio
>>>>> stays exactly
>>>>> the same length and so must be stretching/compressing :(
>>>>> xpander
>>>>> 08-20-2011, 11:14 AM
>>>>> Change the pitch of an item, and let it stretch?
>>>>> If you have not changed your shortcut keys;
>>>>> Shift + 5 steps up in semitones
>>>>> Shift + 4 steps down in semitones
>>>>> Not working from the numpad, btw.
>>>>> Or do like EricM suggested and go to Actions list, run the actions from
>>>>> there or
>>>>> set them up how you'd like.
>>>>> Actions> Action List, find actions "pitch item up (down) one semitone"
>>>>> and remap it to your favorite keyboard shortcut.
>>>>> bilsner
>>>>> 08-20-2011, 11:21 AM
>>>>> Change the pitch of an item, and let it stretch?
>>>>> If you have not changed your shortcut keys;
>>>>> Shift + 5 steps up in semitones
>>>>> Shift + 4 steps down in semitones
>>>>> Not working from the numpad, btw.
>>>>> Or do like EricM suggested and go to Actions list, run the actions from
>>>>> there or
>>>>> set them up how you'd like.
>>>>> yeah thx I have found it altho it's 5 and 6 not 4 and 5 :)
>>>>> xpander
>>>>> 08-20-2011, 02:53 PM
>>>>> Whoops sorry, right you are, shift + 5& 6 it is for the semitones. Now
>>>>> who messed
>>>>> my defaults... ;)
>>>>> ChickenPie4tea
>>>>> 08-21-2011, 12:39 AM
>>>>> I've never found an editor that cleans out background noise better than
>>>>> Audition.
>>>>> I keep it for that alone. I have even tried Ozone and it wasnt as good
>>>>> as the built
>>>>> in adobe tool.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/24/2012 7:39 AM, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>>>>>> There is no known way to do this that Iam aware of.
>>>>>> Audacity can do this and is also multi-track, 2.0 with enhanced
>>>>>> accessibility has been released and is free and worth a look.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> regards, Kerry.
>>>>>> On 24/03/2012 7:21 PM, david hindmarch wrote:
>>>>>>> Can any one please help. I want to play the selected part of a wave
>>>>>>> file in reaper just as you can do in sound forge and sonar.
>>>>>>> There are a number of ways to select a portion of a wave file in
>>>>>>> reaper but I don't know how to simply play the selected area of the
>>>>>>> file using a key command. I know that Alt plus space bar will skip
>>>>>>> over the selected material and that it is possible to hear the
>>>>>>> selected material by pressing the set repeat key, but I only want to
>>>>>>> hear the selected part of the file played once. If any one knows how
>>>>>>> to do this could they direct me to the right key command.
>>>>>>> Best wishes David.
>>>>>>> 
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