[RWP] Adjusting Parameters of Certain Plugins

Wed Mar 21 23:27:04 EDT 2012

Well, lack of real world names for parameter values doesn't matter that 
much, does it?
If a sighted engineer is looking at a oscillascope he might see 
something labeled hertz, but he also has to hear it's sound, to create 
music, same as we do.
Tim Burgess is working on version 2 of his Mackie Display Reader, which 
will be generic, for all daws and both Mac and PC.
It will allow user configuration of what is reported back from Reaper to 
speech, and there might be the possibility of translating numeric values 
into  hertz or other real world terms
About 2,000 hours of configuring it should do the job, don't you think? 
smile.

Indigo L

On 3/21/2012 10:24 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Ah, got it. I see how that works.Thanks for that.
> I thought I had tried this. but, clearly had not.
> Many of these are a case of being happy to crawl, aren't they. Something
> is better than nothing.
> Twiddling these into compliance with your artistic wishes isn't for
> anybody in a hurry.
> Do you suppose the sighted guys in the big studios would put up with
> that sort of interface? Groosem.
> The sliders go in small steps in response to up and down arrows. But,
> there is quantization going on behind the seens, because eventually,
> some of the effects will suddenly jump to another setting. Then, you can
> continue to hold down the down arrow key, and tons and tons of percents
> will go bye with no apparent effect. Suddenly, another change. Of
> course, page up and down makes a big difference, 20% in most cases, but
> you don't know if there were intermediate useful settings that you missed.
>
> Here is a weird one. I added Cokkos ReaVerb, and was talking through the
> track with record monitor.
> honestly, I never did hear what I would call reverb.
> But, with a name like that, maybe that's not what it is.
> Anyway, with audio feeding through, I press shift+p and started arrowing
> down through the paraameters.
> When I got to the third one, not having knowingly changed any settings,
> the track suddenly incurred about a one second delay, which I could not
> stop.
>
> I guess this is what they call the bleeding edge.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Adjusting Parameters of Certain Plugins
>
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>> Hi Jim,
>> I only get the parameter list after exiting with escape; from the
>> effects chain page; back to the track view.
>> Then I press shift+P and there is the parameters list.
>> To edit parameters I arrow down the parameters list and stop on a
>> parameter, then tab down once for the parameter edit box, with a
>> number like you said, 0.00, then tab down again for the edit slider,
>> which moves from 0 to 1000.
>> You can press up down arrows quickly for single increments, or hold
>> them down to zoom up down.
>> Or, press page up and down keys to move by larger chunks, usually 100.
>> I forgot to look if home and end jump all the way up and down, but
>> that's their usual behaveor in most Reaper edit dialogs.
>> you need to save your edits before returning to track view or they're
>> lost.
>> I wish for hertz instead of only 0 to 1000, but that seems to be what
>> we mostly get for parameter values.
>>
>> I also want to apologize for my various menus I was getting from the
>> track's item.
>> Please ignore all that.
>> All those item edits I was finding are on the regular item menu,
>> reached by pressing the alt key.
>> I was somehow getting parts of that regular item menu with various
>> improvised shortcuts.
>> Sorry about that.
>> At least I found a simpler way to reach item edits, in the item menu.
>> Duh! smile.
>>
>> Jim, when you edit either volume or pan realtime, with alt+up down
>> arrows, did you try holding down either up or down arrow.
>> In just a second you'll scroll by large increments.
>> Same with alt+left right arrows, hold down left or right arrow to get
>> large pan edits quickly.
>> Indigo L
>>
>> On 3/20/2012 10:34 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> Playing with the Sonitus FX Equalizer, just checking out what Jessica
>>> was asking about.
>>> I have not been in here before.
>>>
>>> So, from the track view, I pressed f, and chose this pluggin and added
>>> it to the track.
>>> Armed my track for recording with record monitor enabled, so I could
>>> hear myself coming out of the outputs, as my microphone fed the track.
>>> Nice way to check out what effect your effect is having. Really, just
>>> another way to see what condition your condition is in.
>>>
>>> Then, press shift+p to look at the parameters.
>>>
>>> Do I really understand this correctly? There are 32 parameters in here,
>>> shown one at a time.
>>> With the jaws cursor I also found a line just below the parameter name
>>> that says
>>> Value: 0.0
>>> Or something like that.
>>>
>>> As you arrow up and down through the parameters, the valuve field is
>>> populated with the setting for that parameter.
>>> For the frequencies, is the value shown in hertz, or something useful?
>>> No, heck no. Just an inscrutibel number.
>>>
>>> So, how do you change these values? The only way I could do it is by
>>> double left clicking the numbers on the value line, and then editing it
>>> like a text edit box. The effect changes immediately as you edit the
>>> numbers.
>>> But, oh my god, that is a horribly painful way to taylor a simple E Q.
>>> So much for the artistic, creative experience. Is there some value
>>> change key pair I am missing? Or, is editing these numbers the only way.
>>>
>>> Jessica, Which plug were you messing with?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Brasseal"
>>> <jessica.brasseal2010 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <RWP at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:49 PM
>>> Subject: [RWP] Adjusting Parameters of Certain Plugins
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so forgive me if this has already been
>>>> brought to the table before, but I've noticed that after adding FX to
>>>> my track, I can get to the list of parameters using SHIFT+P, but no
>>>> matter how much I change the parameters of some of the plugins, I
>>>> don't hear any noticeable difference, at all. I've found this seems to
>>>> happen to me when I use plugins that don't appear to have a list of
>>>> presets. whether these plugins really don't have any presets, or the
>>>> list just isn't accessible, I'm not sure. Has anyone else noticed
>>>> this? And if so, is there any way around it? Much thanks.
>>>>
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