[RWP] Mix Opinion, Please?

Wed Mar 21 00:44:32 EDT 2012

Jim, I found menus off the track's item that move by large increments, 
for pan and volume.

Did you try the page up and page down keys?
The same way they move along the timeline by measures, they move by 1 db 
increments in most menus, or by some larger chunk for panning.

I need to take more notes, but there are several edit menus that are way 
more powerful than the track properties menu at the tab key in track view.
Try selecting a midi track, press ctrl+right arrow to bring up that 
track's first item, then go to your tab key to find a list of item edits.
Or; press enter on that item; and a menu will appear at your arrow keys, 
and maybe also at your tab key, I'll need to check on which it is.

Also, while on that track's item, press the applications key and look at 
the menu at your arrow keys.

If no menus appear, first press Roy's discovery, Ctrl+up arrow.
Then press the applications key.

I don't want to steer anybody wrong, but I'm pretty certain that that 
menu brought up with the applications key while on the track's item is 
amazingly powerful, with sub menus on item properties, source 
properties, item processing and other submenus.
The submenu on processing has a long list of powerful midi edits, which 
I think appear at your tab key.
Indigo L

On 3/20/2012 9:53 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Roy,
> Do you recall some other key strokes that moved in larger increments
> than alt up/down arrow etc?
> I was pretty sure such existed, and I knew at one time, but still cant'
> reclaim them.
> With alt+up/ down you have to issue tons of keystrokes to make any
> appreciable difference.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Shtupler" <shtupler at 013.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Mix Opinion, Please?
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>> alt+left/right arrows control panning in realtime , while Alt+Up/Down
>> control volume.
>> cheers
>> Roy.
>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Mix Opinion, Please?
>>
>>
>>> I haven't found V U meters yet in Reaper
>>> I need to learn where sighted users find them, and learn if they show
>>> onscreen numbers.
>>> Reaper is so full of numbers, it wouldn't surprise me to find V U
>>> values expressed in numbers. smile.
>>>
>>> I'm just using my ears so far.
>>> I've got adjusting midi track volume down pretty well.
>>> I press control+right arrow on a selected track to show its first
>>> item, then tab down to volume; in item edit; and set volume.
>>> Then press enter to save changes.
>>> I hear the immediate change in volume of that track.
>>> So far, I haven't understood how to have the track playing so I can
>>> hear changes as I tweak volume and other parameters.
>>> I tried today to open item edit while a track was playing, and play
>>> stopped.
>>>
>>> It's rough premixing in track view I'm doing so far, I'll get to the
>>> mixer section later.
>>> I just don't comprehend the difference in level; of what I hear while
>>> recording; compared with what I hear playing the resulting file on
>>> winamp later.
>>> I also play other folks MP3's on that same winamp, and I sometimes
>>> get my MP3's at decent levels and sometimes way too low.
>>>
>>> I've yet to learn how to find cymbal hits I want to zap on a midi
>>> drum track.
>>> I know there's some way to split a drum track into its instruments,
>>> when the drum machine doesn't have a bunch of separate output jacks,
>>> 1 per instrument, each instrument on its own midi channel.
>>> I believe there's an NTonyx utility that splits a drum track into its
>>> instruments.
>>> Indigo L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2012 9:15 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>> i wouldn't worry about perceived loudness yet, just make sure you like
>>>> the mix and watch out for any clipping.
>>>> Do we have access to the meters in Reaper?
>>>>
>>>> At 08:46 PM 3/19/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> I'm learning a little more in Reaper each day, but I'm wondering if I
>>>>> recorded this track too high in level, so the bass and kick distorted,
>>>>> and, if that's so, then why is my overall level so low.
>>>>> It sounds right to me when I record it on my off line daw, then I take
>>>>> it over to this online computer and my track is way too low compared
>>>>> to what others are doing.
>>>>> I balanced relative levels of the midi tracks, and brought the bass
>>>>> just under hearing distortion on it, and it seems proportionate to the
>>>>> piano and drums, but the track is still too low in level.
>>>>> I haven't compress it yet, or used Waves l3 maximizer on it yet, I
>>>>> can't believe those are going to bring its level up 3 or more times in
>>>>> volume, to where it should be.
>>>>> This is still a rough mix, I'll remove those annoying cymbol hits in
>>>>> the second half.
>>>>> I want to use this as a basic rhythm part, and leave room for some
>>>>> live sax and flute to take the place of the original vocal, , maybe a
>>>>> shaker, some fun things, and I can hear the girl chorus doing that
>>>>> little Still the Same chorus, I don't have a female singer, I guess
>>>>> I'll have to fake it myself with AutoTune's gender bender. smile.
>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts about whether it's recorded too hot
>>>>> in the bass already, and how you yourself get overall levels up
>>>>> higher.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63003631/1Still%20the%20Same.mp3
>>>>>
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