[RWP] Mix Opinion, Please?

[indigo]

I truly appreciate your detailed analysis, Colin, and you usually nail it.
This is a preliminary recording, feeding my Yamaha MM6 with all tracks.
After I get the details worked out, I can assign the piano to PianoTeq, 
find a better rock organ patch that doesn't sound like strings or whatever.
I have software instruments, but feeding a GM synth is quick and handy.

I had the piano's level  down earlier, but brought it back up, and 
thought it might be a little high, especially since I plan to add sax 
and flute to the mix later.
The drum track comes out only 1 left and 1 right audio out, so I can't 
get the drum track instrument on separate midi channels and tracks, but, 
maybe I can find the cymbal events on the drum track and delete them.
Either that, or I'll select the first half of the drum track and paste 
it in for the second half of the song.
I have a drum machine, the Zoom StreetBoxx, and another one in the 
Roland Mc-307.
I can run the drum midi track through those and maybe I'll get that 
wonderful drum machine feature, to select delete, then wait until you 
hear the offending cymbal and press its key; and it's gone.
Everything is reversable, in some way or another; of course.
I only wish that I didn't need to tediously undo so many select tracks 
when I go to edit undo,in order to reach the last important change.
There ought to be a filter somewhere in Reaper that would keep track 
selection from appearing at edit undo.
Either that, or create an action that would zap all the track selections 
then  undo the last significant  change
Thanks,
Indigo L
On 3/19/2012 10:04 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
> listening on cheap crappy headphones here, but here are my thoughts:
> bring the piano down a bit, perhaps 3DB to start, it seems to distort
> just a bit in parts.
> You can use a nice compressor to bring the perceived volume of the piano
> up a bit, while smoothening it and keeping the distortion out.
> Kick and bass sounded fairly well mixed....crappy headphones so I didn't
> get a real good idea of weather the bass and kick were distorting here
> or not.
> strings or whatever that was sat very nicely over there on the right
> side just under the piano but well defined in the over all mix.
> relative volume was just fine on this machine...it used some auto player
> in firefox for some reason, but the volume was on par with everything
> else on the machine.
> as long as you don't have any clipping or distortion on the tracks, you
> can bring the volume up a whole lot with the master volume in reaper.
> Your systems output and speakers and soundcard etc will be the only
> limiting factor there.
> Use compression as a tool. It'll help with perceived loudness and all
> that kind of good stuff.
> do you have the ability to separate out all the drums and stuff? IE,
> kick, snare and simbles on separate tracks?
> or is that drum pattern a preset midi thing where it's mixed before hand?
>
> Regards
> COlin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
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>> I'm learning a little more in Reaper each day, but I'm wondering if I
>> recorded this track too high in level, so the bass and kick distorted,
>> and, if that's so, then why is my overall level so low.
>> It sounds right to me when I record it on my off line daw, then I take
>> it over to this online computer and my track is way too low compared
>> to what others are doing.
>> I balanced relative levels of the midi tracks, and brought the bass
>> just under hearing distortion on it, and it seems proportionate to the
>> piano and drums, but the track is still too low in level.
>> I haven't compress it yet, or used Waves l3 maximizer on it yet, I
>> can't believe those are going to bring its level up 3 or more times in
>> volume, to where it should be.
>> This is still a rough mix, I'll remove those annoying cymbol hits in
>> the second half.
>> I want to use this as a basic rhythm part, and leave room for some
>> live sax and flute to take the place of the original vocal, , maybe a
>> shaker, some fun things, and I can hear the girl chorus doing that
>> little Still the Same chorus, I don't have a female singer, I guess
>> I'll have to fake it myself with AutoTune's gender bender. smile.
>> Please let me know your thoughts about whether it's recorded too hot
>> in the bass already, and how you yourself get overall levels up higher.
>> Thanks,
>> Indigo L
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63003631/1Still%20the%20Same.mp3
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