[RWP] Freeware VST's

Sat Mar 17 11:22:21 EDT 2012

Gianluca, for starts, here are 3 classic electric piano demo VST's.
You only get a nag screen with a plea to buy them, which we will when we 
make money from our music,  otherwise they are  full functioning.
They are freely distributed; and all over the web for download
I'll put other similar freeware up later.
Indigo L
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63003631/MrRay%2C%20MrRay73%20and%20MrTramp%20VST.zip

On 3/17/2012 4:32 AM, Gianluca Apollaro wrote:
> Hi Indigo and list,
> I always render files as flac via the regular render dialog accessed
> using alt+ctrl+r and never had problems with them, and all the mp3 I
> created played just fine. I work mostly with audio though, because with
> midi I can't manage to convert them to audio cause I don't have any good
> sounding vst and as far as I know you can't convert midi to audio using
> the midi output thing. Btw if anybody wants to add me, my skype id is
> gianluca8815.
> Best regards,
> Gianluca from Italy
>
>
> Il 17/03/2012 03:28, indigo ha scritto:
>> Scott, please don't switch to any of my work flows, which don't flow
>> very well yet!
>> I'm just a beginner, discovering as I go, no users guide yet for
>> Reaper with ReaAccess.
>> I keep notes on whatever I find, and on whatever anyone else says, and
>> I'm hoping for a Wikki style users guide, so others can do edits and
>> simplify my over complicated methods. smile.
>> I did try rendering into several formats; like I thought I'd reduce
>> the 80 meg .wav file by half by rendering to flack, but Reaper has
>> some peculiar ways of doing things, as you know.
>> To get a .flack file and not just a .flk.rpp file, which won't play in
>> anyone's Winamp, I had to choose render custom, instead of render
>> entire project.
>> But, the end time for the custom setting seems to stop at a loop point
>> in the midi file I was using, so my flack render suddenly cut off
>> before the actual end of project.
>> I had measures, beats selected in my project settings, but in the
>> render dialog I only got the project length displayed in minutes seconds.
>> So, I'd need to look at the minutes/seconds end time of the rendering
>> of the entire project, jot down that figure;then render custom and
>> type in the project lentth in minutes/seconds; then I assume I would
>> have got the whole track into flack
>> I'm hoping there easier ways to do these things I haven't discovered yet.
>> I don't really understand why ; if I set my Project settings to
>> measures, beats,why isn't that setting reflected in all Reaper dialogs?
>> Also, other peculiar things, when I tried to render to MP3, Reaper
>> went through the process, and produced a .mp3 file, which wouldn't
>> play in Winamp.
>> I tried again, and Reaper announced that it needed to download lame mp3.
>>
>> Since My daw is off line, so I can't download anything from the web.
>> I copied Winamp's mp3plug into Reaper's program files/plugs folder,
>> hoping those would suffice; but Reaper still said it needed to
>> download that lame mp3.
>> While I was in the program file/plugs folder in Reaper, I noticed
>> there's already a plug in there named Reaper Mp3.
>> Well, Reaper refused to recognize Winamp's mp3 plug, so today I
>> downloaded the latest lame MP3, with this computer; hoping I can stick
>> into a Reaper folder somewhere and it'll be happy; and will do renders
>> to mp3 that actually play.
>> The .ogg files play fine in Winamp, but when I did a recording in the
>> compressed lossless .wv foremat, Winamp couldn't play it.
>>
>> Thanks for any clues,
>> Indigo L
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/16/2012 8:33 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> Wow, how weird that those two versions would sound different. I
>>> would've thought that they'd both be shoved through the same OGG
>>> encoder with both methods, and that that'd be the stage where the most
>>> butchering gets done. Don't worry, I'm not expecting you to know the
>>> answer as to why it sounds different and I certainly won't be the guy
>>> to question your ability to hear the difference, just musing on the
>>> strange and interesting times we live in.
>>>
>>> If you get a chance and you're half as curious as I am about this,
>>> maybe try recording that audio version of the MIDI file down in 24bit
>>> wav, then try rendering a version with the exact same settings and see
>>> if you can hear the difference. If you can, even when it's not set to
>>> spit out a file in a lossy format and no dithering is taking place,
>>> I'll definitely be switching to your workflow.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/12, indigo<33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Well, Scott, I'm sure it's not easier or quicker, but I was told that
>>>> there are losses during rendering down, while there are no losses if
>>>> you
>>>> simply record in the format that you want to begin with.
>>>> I'm just experimenting to learn what works best.
>>>> I'm fairly sure that there are unavoidable math compromises made during
>>>> rendering down to a lower bit rate format.
>>>>
>>>> I recorded an audio track from midi files at 24 bits 44.1K that turned
>>>> out 86 megs, I think it was, kind of large to post anywhere.
>>>> I tried rendering it to 16 bit ogg, and other foremats, and I certainly
>>>> could hear the losses.
>>>> So, instead, I just changed the Project recording format to 16 bit ogg,
>>>> recorded a new audio track, and saved it, no rendering, no dithering
>>>> required, and it's 5 megs or so in .ogg, not as clear as the .wav
>>>> version, but much clearer than when I rendered down from .wav to .ogg.
>>>> Indigo L
>>>>
>>>> On 3/16/2012 5:38 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>> Hi chaps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Forgive me, but I don't see how this is any simpler/quicker than
>>>>> rendering down to a file, particularly as rendering is done quicker
>>>>> than in realtime. What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/16/12, indigo<33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, here's the way I'm working in Reaper right now.
>>>>>> Instead of rendering, you can insert an empty track.
>>>>>> Arrow to the empty track to select it, hit the I key to go to IO
>>>>>> routing, tab to add returns.
>>>>>> Arrow down to the bottom selection, add returns from all tracks.
>>>>>> This will cause all the tracks you've already recorded to send their
>>>>>> output to your blank track.
>>>>>> I believe you will need to add a send from your empty audio track to
>>>>>> your sound card, so you can hear it during recording and playback.
>>>>>> There is no okay button in IO routing, just hit escape to return to
>>>>>> track view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the empty track selected, tab through its track properties.
>>>>>> Select all channels if your already recorded tracks are on several
>>>>>> midi
>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>> Select record mode as input, record arm on.
>>>>>> Hit enter to save your settings.
>>>>>> Now here's something I found works to make sure you get a stereo
>>>>>> recording, if your already recorded tracks are in stereo.
>>>>>> Select the empty track.
>>>>>> ctrl+up arrow, then press applications key.
>>>>>> You will get another menu with more detailed properties for your
>>>>>> empty
>>>>>> track.
>>>>>> Arrow down and you will find record mode input already checked.
>>>>>> Arrow farther down and you'll find a selection called Input Stereo.
>>>>>> Hit enter on it, then hit enter on okay, and you'll be sure to
>>>>>> record a
>>>>>> stereo audio track in the empty track.
>>>>>> You may not need this extra step, so, if you don't, ignore it, but I
>>>>>> ended up with a mono track without this step.
>>>>>> Here's how to record your empty audio track in several different
>>>>>> media
>>>>>> formats, so you don't need to render in Reaper's file menu.
>>>>>> Press alt+enter for Project settings.
>>>>>> Get on the Audio settings tab.
>>>>>> Arrow down to the format you intend to use for recording.
>>>>>> Select whatever format you want your empty track to record in, .wav,
>>>>>> flack, whatever, though I found mp3 doesn't work until you go
>>>>>> online to
>>>>>> import lame MP3 into Reaper.
>>>>>> Select your bit rate, etcetera, then hit okay; and you are
>>>>>> returned to
>>>>>> track view.
>>>>>> Select your empty audio track, press W to go to beginning of project,
>>>>>> press R to begin recording.
>>>>>> Hit spacebar, or press R again to stop recording.
>>>>>> Press ctrl+up arrow.
>>>>>> Press alt key and arrow down in the file menu to the selection: Save
>>>>>> Output to Disk Bounce.
>>>>>> Press enter and you get a very complete menu for saving your audio
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> in its selected format.
>>>>>> When you are sure your settings are correct; tab down to Start; Press
>>>>>> enter and saving begins.
>>>>>> Now, I'm not saying you may not find easier ways, I hope you do; but
>>>>>> these steps are intuitive enough, and are working for me.
>>>>>> As I understand Reaper better, I'm sure I'll find quicker methods,
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> probably eliminate steps that aren't actually required in all
>>>>>> instances.
>>>>>> Don't let Reaper's complexity spook you.
>>>>>> You don't need all its thousands of selections to do simple
>>>>>> recording,
>>>>>> but they're waiting until you need them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/16/2012 12:01 PM, Joe Paton wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine is beautiful right now, at least I can't hear any delay
>>>>>>> working 2
>>>>>>> guitar parts and 2 vocals four tracks. simple music, but still
>>>>>>> timing
>>>>>>> critical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great you guys, thanks indigo. I know i'll be back with more.
>>>>>>> so here's more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a quickie, can I save the four recorded tracks to say 1
>>>>>>> stereo
>>>>>>> tracks, I know I can render the four down to a saved file, and I
>>>>>>> guess I
>>>>>>> could do a media file import to bring the song back to a stereo
>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>> but that seems round the houses a little bit. How do you use master
>>>>>>> tracks?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems like a life times work this stuff, and I've had more than
>>>>>>> I've got
>>>>>>> left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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