[RWP] quantizing midi in reaper
Roy Shtupler
shtupler at 013.net
Tue Jun 26 10:36:03 EDT 2012
with pleasure.
Roy.
http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
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Subject: Re: [RWP] quantizing midi in reaper
> Wow thank you so much for that. The information was extremely helpful.
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>> 1. Re: Tips for selecting audio (Patrick Perdue)
>> 2. Re: quantizing midi in Reaper : success!!! (Roy)
>> 3. Re: Tips for selecting audio (Indigo)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:31 -0400
>> From: Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Tips for selecting audio
>> Message-ID: <BE629631-8B06-484E-95C7-E06FA964C409 at pdaudio.net>
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>> Basically, the short version is that you are operating on the last thing
>> you touched. So, if you've highlighted a track, for example, then make a
>> time selection, you're still existing in the context of doing stuff to
>> the last touched track rather than the overall timeline. You have a
>> selection, but haven't changed gears to deal with it. Same applies for
>> items. If you have one or more items selected, then make a time selection
>> happen, without changing to that context, your next delete operation will
>> nuke those items rather than the material you've selected.
>> So, it's very important to know in what context you are working, or bad
>> things will happen. Have I experienced this thing? Oh yeah, and I don't
>> recommend it.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>
>>> This was a very useful post, with lots of helpful information. thanks
>>> for writing it.
>>>
>>> One thing jumped out at me. About establishing a time selection with
>>> alt shift left and right bracket, and concerns over whether operating on
>>> that selection will operate on the entire time line, meaning all tracks
>>> at once, or whether it would apply only to the current track.
>>> I was not aware of this, but it seems like an important consideration.
>>> So, once you press the last of the alt+shift+bracket keys, are you now
>>> operating on the track? then, if you left or right arrow, you revert to
>>> operating on the entire timeline? Is that how that works?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Tips for selecting audio
>>>
>>>
>>>> I do most of my editing in Reaper these days, only using SoundForge for
>>>> little touch-ups and over-all mastering stuff. I agree that Reaper
>>>> doesn't replace SoundForge. It's an entirely different way of doing
>>>> things. This having been said, everything you want to do is quite
>>>> possible in Reaper, though completely different than what you're used
>>>> to in SoundForge.
>>>>
>>>> For example, editing the entire project's timeline is different than
>>>> the various modes of ripple editing, which allow you to edit stuff on
>>>> individual tracks without effecting the overall timeline of the
>>>> project, something that isn't possible in SoundForge due to it's
>>>> two-track nature.
>>>>
>>>> One thing that will really help when doing linear edits in Reaper is to
>>>> set repeat with control+r. This, quite literally, repeats the time
>>>> selection over and over again when the cursor hits it. Note that the
>>>> cursor is completely independent of time selection. You can make a
>>>> selection, then go anywhere else in the project, while the time
>>>> selection is still active elseware. Another thing you won't see in
>>>> SoundForge, and something to get used to.
>>>>
>>>> So, let's take your specific questions individually;
>>>>
>>>>>>> Firstly, in sound forge, I could press control, shift and end to
>>>>>>> select from the current point, to the end of a file, for example, to
>>>>>>> trim off the end of a recording. Is there an equivalent keystroke in
>>>>>>> Reaper?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know of one keystroke that will do this, but here's how I do
>>>> it. Find the point at which you want to start your selection. Press
>>>> shift+alt+left bracket. Now, press end, then alt shift right bracket.
>>>> You now have a selection from point X to end of project. To go the
>>>> other way, follow the same steps logically. It may be useful to set
>>>> markers to help you not lose your place. Control 1 through 0 quickly
>>>> set markers 1 through 0. Pressing just those numbers jump back to those
>>>> markers. You can select between any two markers by simply going to one,
>>>> pressing shift+alt+left bracket, jumping to another marker, then ending
>>>> the selection with shift+alt+right bracket.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, in sound forge, there's a nice way to do basic selection, by
>>>>>>> holding down the shift key and arrowing forward. Does Reaper have
>>>>>>> such functionality?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Once you have a time selection set, you can use several keystrokes
>>>> to expand, contract, and nudge the time selection left or right. Here's
>>>> how this works.
>>>> First of all, the zoom ratio is set with numpad plus and numpad minus
>>>> by default. Plus gives higher granularity, thus, everything moves in
>>>> smaller steps. Basically, the lower the number, the larger your
>>>> movements will be.
>>>> Now, we will assume you already have a time selection in place.
>>>> Otherwise, these keys won't do much.
>>>> You can nudge the entire time selection left or right by pressing comma
>>>> and period, respectively. Increase or decrease the left side of the
>>>> selection with controlcomma and period respectively, and do the same to
>>>> the right side of the selection with control+alt+comma/period. Again,
>>>> having repeat set will give you a better idea of what's going on in the
>>>> project while you manipulate this stuff in real time, as does using
>>>> loop mode in SoundForge, assuming you aren't using something like the
>>>> Snowman's jaws scripts. I should also mention that everything is
>>>> completely context sensitive, so you'll want to make sure that, after
>>>> making a time selection, that you're actually working with the timeline
>>>> rather than a track or item before performing an edit operation.
>>>> Usually, what I do before deleting a time selection, just to make sure
>>>> I'm actually effecting the timeline itself, is to press left or right
>>>> arrow after making a selection, moving the cursor slightly, so that a
>>>> time relate
> d
>> co
>>>> mmand is the last thing I've done, then envoking the desired action.
>>>> Otherwise, I might end up accidentally deleting a track. Been there,
>>>> done that. It's not fun, especially when you go on blissfully editing
>>>> and saving a project, only to discover that you deleted something 500
>>>> edits ago that really needs to exist.
>>>>
>>>>>> How can I apply a fade-in or fade-out to a selected piece of audio?
>>>>>> In sound forge, I used to select the desired audio, go to process and
>>>>>> fade.
>>>>
>>>> This can be done with two actions that, as far as I know, are not
>>>> associated with a key by default.
>>>> These actions are called fade items into cusror and fade items out from
>>>> cursor. Once you've assigned keys to these two actions in the actions
>>>> list, (f4,) you can simply fade in and out using time selection or
>>>> relative position of cursor. The fade length will be determined by the
>>>> selection length, although you can edit the fade lengths of individual
>>>> items by selecting those items with control left/right arrow on the
>>>> track with the appropriate items, then going to that item's properties
>>>> with alt+f2, and changing the values for fade in/fade out. I will say
>>>> that this is something I much prefer doing in SoundForge. Don't worry
>>>> though, because there is an easy way to import and export items from
>>>> Reaper to SoundForge and back again.
>>>>
>>>> First, you need to tell Reaper that SoundForge is your primary audio
>>>> editor. You can do this in preferences under external editors. Just
>>>> brows to the full path of forgeXX.exe, depending on your version of
>>>> SoundForge.
>>>> Now, here's the easiest way I know of to get a selection of audio from
>>>> Reaper to SoundForge.
>>>> First, make an item split on either side of the material you want to
>>>> edit with your external editor. Do this by finding the point of
>>>> interest with your cursor, pressing "s" at start of selection, then
>>>> doing the same for the end. Now, select your previously split item by
>>>> using control+left arrow. With that item selected, bring up the context
>>>> menu for items, and find the option that says "render item as new
>>>> take." If you don't do this, opening the item in an external editor
>>>> will open the entire file rather than a small portion, which is usually
>>>> not what you want. I'm still using an older version of Reaper, so
>>>> getting the right context menu may require pressing control+up arrow a
>>>> few times under Reaper 4.x.
>>>> Anyhow, after your item has been rendered as a new take, go back to
>>>> that item's context menu, and select open item in editor. This should
>>>> bring up your selected audio in SoundForge. Do whatever you want to it
>>>> there, then save from SoundForge. The newly edited item will
>>>> automatically exist in the project. Keep in mind, however, that
>>>> anything you do that drastically changes the length of your selection
>>>> may have interesting consequences, as the item length was already set
>>>> in the project, and has nothing at all to do with the length of the
>>>> file itself, so you may have to adjust length settings and other things
>>>> later in life, using a combination of ripple editing and manually
>>>> putting in numbers. This can get a bit tricky, especially with multiple
>>>> tracks, making sure that everything is still lined up at the end of the
>>>> day. If you're just doing basic dynamics processing, fade in/out, etc.
>>>> this shouldn't be a problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope this is at least somewhat useful.
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Stewart, Sound Forge is the best audio editor, in my opinion, and
>>>>> since you already know all those edits in Sound Forge, why not
>>>>> install Sound forge on your computer that has Reaper, then set Sound
>>>>> Forge as your associated editor.
>>>>> In Reaper's options/preferences; there's a long listof topics;
>>>>> beginning with Audio, and toward the very bottom of those topics is a
>>>>> place to set Reaper's associated editor.
>>>>> Now, I haven't done this yet, though I will in time, so I can't say
>>>>> how you take the track from Reaper to Sound Forge to do things like
>>>>> fade in fade out, but there must be a method.
>>>>> I'm hoping it's simply selecting an audio track in Reaper, then in
>>>>> Reaper's menus will be Sound Forge, click on it and Sound Forge opens
>>>>> with the selected audio track in place.
>>>>> This is how apps like Sonar do it; I believe; but I'm only guessing.
>>>>> If you try it, please tell us how it worked.
>>>>> Sorry, I can only help with what I've done so far, but I'm glad to
>>>>> help with that much,
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/24/2012 1:32 PM, Stuart Lawler wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Indigo. How can I apply a fade-in or fade-out to a selected
>>>>>> piece of audio? In sound forge, I used to select the desired audio,
>>>>>> go to process and fade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Indigo
>>>>>> Sent: 24 June 2012 17:04
>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Tips for selecting audio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In ReaAccess, you can split any audio track into items by first
>>>>>> selecting the item.
>>>>>> I arrow to the track in question and press ctrl+shift+right arrow to
>>>>>> select hhe item.
>>>>>> You can then left or right arrow to locate the cursor at the point
>>>>>> you want the split to occur; then press the S key.
>>>>>> You then have the portion of the track previous to your split point
>>>>>> called item 1 and the remainder of the original track as item 2.
>>>>>> Then you can do what you like with either item, delete it; cut and
>>>>>> paste it to a new track, whatever.
>>>>>> You can split these items again and again into ever smaller sections;
>>>>>> or items as they are called; by the same method.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other people may suggest other methods, there are usually many ways
>>>>>> to do things in Reaper.
>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/24/2012 10:24 AM, Stuart Lawler wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm still very new to Reaper, but want to learn to do a few things.
>>>>>>> Thanks to Gianluca, a member of this list I think, I have a nice
>>>>>>> project template that allows me to set up ducking, so that music
>>>>>>> fades down nicely when a voiceover is inserted. Now however, I'm
>>>>>>> wanting to perform some very basic selection commands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm coming from the Sound Forge school of editing, so excuse me if
>>>>>>> some of these questions are really basic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Firstly, in sound forge, I could press control, shift and end to
>>>>>>> select from the current point, to the end of a file, for example, to
>>>>>>> trim off the end of a recording. Is there an equivalent keystroke in
>>>>>>> Reaper?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also I'd like to know the opposite, in sound forge, I could press
>>>>>>> control, shift and home, to select from the current position to the
>>>>>>> beginning of the file, again, is there an equivalent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, in sound forge, there's a nice way to do basic selection, by
>>>>>>> holding down the shift key and arrowing forward. Does Reaper have
>>>>>>> such functionality?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:10:19 +0300
>> From: Roy <shtupler at 013.net>
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] quantizing midi in Reaper : success!!!
>> Message-ID: <98622EDB5D9243618A863EEAF27B65D6 at PcPower171011>
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>> you're welcome! always glad to help.
>> the key is , since it's a standard dialog box , just explore with the tab
>> and arrow keys to change values.
>> best
>> Roy.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Indigo
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:12 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] quantizing midi in Reaper : success!!!
>>
>> This is amazing, Roy. Your method seems totally original, nothing like
>> the quantization procedure in Cockos Wiki.
>> If you don't mind, I'll post your method on the Cockos forum for desired
>> features, where at least 8 sighted users were as frustrated as I was
>> trying to set the grid from the inline editor, which is the one we get
>> in ReaAccess; because midi events are laid out along the timeline.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Indigo L
>> 6/25/2012 5:21 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>> hi Indi and all
>>> I've succeeded in quantizing midi data in Reaper's built-in midi editor.
>>> after selecting the item in question , from the menu that pops up select
>>> Open in editor|open in editor (should be Reaper's built-in midi editor).
>>> from the editor's view menu , make sure that the option to view as event
>>> list is selected; this way we can see the events as a list view , no
>>> need
>>> for piano rolls and grid settings.
>>> from the edit menu choose Quantize...
>>> in the resulting dialog , any combobox that indicates "grid" as the
>>> value
>>> should be changed to a note length e.g 1/2 , 1/8 etc.
>>> there are also combos for values such as straight , triplet , swing
>>> feels
>>> etc.
>>> finally tab to the Comit button , then the ok button.
>>> now , if you like your last used settings , the next time you quantize ,
>>> you can choose Edit|quantize|quantize using last settings
>>> so everything is accessible , no need for setting grid values; takes a
>>> bit
>>> of getting used to though not to leave settings at the "grid" option.
>>> hope this is clear and helpful enough.
>>> good luck
>>> Roy.
>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 03:46:54 -0400
>> From: Indigo <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Tips for selecting audio
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>> Thanks again, Patrick.More light cast into dim corners of Reaper audio
>> editing.
>> Indigo L
>>
>>
>> On 6/25/2012 10:52 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>> Basically, the short version is that you are operating on the last thing
>>> you touched. So, if you've highlighted a track, for example, then make a
>>> time selection, you're still existing in the context of doing stuff to
>>> the last touched track rather than the overall timeline. You have a
>>> selection, but haven't changed gears to deal with it. Same applies for
>>> items. If you have one or more items selected, then make a time
>>> selection happen, without changing to that context, your next delete
>>> operation will nuke those items rather than the material you've
>>> selected.
>>> So, it's very important to know in what context you are working, or bad
>>> things will happen. Have I experienced this thing? Oh yeah, and I don't
>>> recommend it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>
>>>> This was a very useful post, with lots of helpful information. thanks
>>>> for writing it.
>>>>
>>>> One thing jumped out at me. About establishing a time selection with
>>>> alt shift left and right bracket, and concerns over whether operating
>>>> on that selection will operate on the entire time line, meaning all
>>>> tracks at once, or whether it would apply only to the current track.
>>>> I was not aware of this, but it seems like an important consideration.
>>>> So, once you press the last of the alt+shift+bracket keys, are you now
>>>> operating on the track? then, if you left or right arrow, you revert
>>>> to operating on the entire timeline? Is that how that works?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Tips for selecting audio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I do most of my editing in Reaper these days, only using SoundForge
>>>>> for little touch-ups and over-all mastering stuff. I agree that Reaper
>>>>> doesn't replace SoundForge. It's an entirely different way of doing
>>>>> things. This having been said, everything you want to do is quite
>>>>> possible in Reaper, though completely different than what you're used
>>>>> to in SoundForge.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, editing the entire project's timeline is different than
>>>>> the various modes of ripple editing, which allow you to edit stuff on
>>>>> individual tracks without effecting the overall timeline of the
>>>>> project, something that isn't possible in SoundForge due to it's
>>>>> two-track nature.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing that will really help when doing linear edits in Reaper is
>>>>> to set repeat with control+r. This, quite literally, repeats the time
>>>>> selection over and over again when the cursor hits it. Note that the
>>>>> cursor is completely independent of time selection. You can make a
>>>>> selection, then go anywhere else in the project, while the time
>>>>> selection is still active elseware. Another thing you won't see in
>>>>> SoundForge, and something to get used to.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, let's take your specific questions individually;
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Firstly, in sound forge, I could press control, shift and end to
>>>>>>>> select from the current point, to the end of a file, for example,
>>>>>>>> to trim off the end of a recording. Is there an equivalent
>>>>>>>> keystroke in Reaper?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know of one keystroke that will do this, but here's how I do
>>>>> it. Find the point at which you want to start your selection. Press
>>>>> shift+alt+left bracket. Now, press end, then alt shift right bracket.
>>>>> You now have a selection from point X to end of project. To go the
>>>>> other way, follow the same steps logically. It may be useful to set
>>>>> markers to help you not lose your place. Control 1 through 0 quickly
>>>>> set markers 1 through 0. Pressing just those numbers jump back to
>>>>> those markers. You can select between any two markers by simply going
>>>>> to one, pressing shift+alt+left bracket, jumping to another marker,
>>>>> then ending the selection with shift+alt+right bracket.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, in sound forge, there's a nice way to do basic selection, by
>>>>>>>> holding down the shift key and arrowing forward. Does Reaper have
>>>>>>>> such functionality?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Once you have a time selection set, you can use several
>>>>> keystrokes to expand, contract, and nudge the time selection left or
>>>>> right. Here's how this works.
>>>>> First of all, the zoom ratio is set with numpad plus and numpad minus
>>>>> by default. Plus gives higher granularity, thus, everything moves in
>>>>> smaller steps. Basically, the lower the number, the larger your
>>>>> movements will be.
>>>>> Now, we will assume you already have a time selection in place.
>>>>> Otherwise, these keys won't do much.
>>>>> You can nudge the entire time selection left or right by pressing
>>>>> comma and period, respectively. Increase or decrease the left side of
>>>>> the selection with controlcomma and period respectively, and do the
>>>>> same to the right side of the selection with control+alt+comma/period.
>>>>> Again, having repeat set will give you a better idea of what's going
>>>>> on in the project while you manipulate this stuff in real time, as
>>>>> does using loop mode in SoundForge, assuming you aren't using
>>>>> something like the Snowman's jaws scripts. I should also mention that
>>>>> everything is completely context sensitive, so you'll want to make
>>>>> sure that, after making a time selection, that you're actually working
>>>>> with the timeline rather than a track or item before performing an
>>>>> edit operation. Usually, what I do before deleting a time selection,
>>>>> just to make sure I'm actually effecting the timeline itself, is to
>>>>> press left or right arrow after making a selection, moving the cursor
>>>>> slightly, so that a time relat
> e
>> d
>>> co
>>>>> mmand is the last thing I've done, then envoking the desired action.
>>>>> Otherwise, I might end up accidentally deleting a track. Been there,
>>>>> done that. It's not fun, especially when you go on blissfully editing
>>>>> and saving a project, only to discover that you deleted something 500
>>>>> edits ago that really needs to exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can I apply a fade-in or fade-out to a selected piece of audio?
>>>>>>> In sound forge, I used to select the desired audio, go to process
>>>>>>> and fade.
>>>>>
>>>>> This can be done with two actions that, as far as I know, are not
>>>>> associated with a key by default.
>>>>> These actions are called fade items into cusror and fade items out
>>>>> from cursor. Once you've assigned keys to these two actions in the
>>>>> actions list, (f4,) you can simply fade in and out using time
>>>>> selection or relative position of cursor. The fade length will be
>>>>> determined by the selection length, although you can edit the fade
>>>>> lengths of individual items by selecting those items with control
>>>>> left/right arrow on the track with the appropriate items, then going
>>>>> to that item's properties with alt+f2, and changing the values for
>>>>> fade in/fade out. I will say that this is something I much prefer
>>>>> doing in SoundForge. Don't worry though, because there is an easy way
>>>>> to import and export items from Reaper to SoundForge and back again.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, you need to tell Reaper that SoundForge is your primary audio
>>>>> editor. You can do this in preferences under external editors. Just
>>>>> brows to the full path of forgeXX.exe, depending on your version of
>>>>> SoundForge.
>>>>> Now, here's the easiest way I know of to get a selection of audio from
>>>>> Reaper to SoundForge.
>>>>> First, make an item split on either side of the material you want to
>>>>> edit with your external editor. Do this by finding the point of
>>>>> interest with your cursor, pressing "s" at start of selection, then
>>>>> doing the same for the end. Now, select your previously split item by
>>>>> using control+left arrow. With that item selected, bring up the
>>>>> context menu for items, and find the option that says "render item as
>>>>> new take." If you don't do this, opening the item in an external
>>>>> editor will open the entire file rather than a small portion, which is
>>>>> usually not what you want. I'm still using an older version of Reaper,
>>>>> so getting the right context menu may require pressing control+up
>>>>> arrow a few times under Reaper 4.x.
>>>>> Anyhow, after your item has been rendered as a new take, go back to
>>>>> that item's context menu, and select open item in editor. This should
>>>>> bring up your selected audio in SoundForge. Do whatever you want to it
>>>>> there, then save from SoundForge. The newly edited item will
>>>>> automatically exist in the project. Keep in mind, however, that
>>>>> anything you do that drastically changes the length of your selection
>>>>> may have interesting consequences, as the item length was already set
>>>>> in the project, and has nothing at all to do with the length of the
>>>>> file itself, so you may have to adjust length settings and other
>>>>> things later in life, using a combination of ripple editing and
>>>>> manually putting in numbers. This can get a bit tricky, especially
>>>>> with multiple tracks, making sure that everything is still lined up at
>>>>> the end of the day. If you're just doing basic dynamics processing,
>>>>> fade in/out, etc. this shouldn't be a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this is at least somewhat useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stewart, Sound Forge is the best audio editor, in my opinion, and
>>>>>> since you already know all those edits in Sound Forge, why not
>>>>>> install Sound forge on your computer that has Reaper, then set Sound
>>>>>> Forge as your associated editor.
>>>>>> In Reaper's options/preferences; there's a long listof topics;
>>>>>> beginning with Audio, and toward the very bottom of those topics is a
>>>>>> place to set Reaper's associated editor.
>>>>>> Now, I haven't done this yet, though I will in time, so I can't say
>>>>>> how you take the track from Reaper to Sound Forge to do things like
>>>>>> fade in fade out, but there must be a method.
>>>>>> I'm hoping it's simply selecting an audio track in Reaper, then in
>>>>>> Reaper's menus will be Sound Forge, click on it and Sound Forge opens
>>>>>> with the selected audio track in place.
>>>>>> This is how apps like Sonar do it; I believe; but I'm only guessing.
>>>>>> If you try it, please tell us how it worked.
>>>>>> Sorry, I can only help with what I've done so far, but I'm glad to
>>>>>> help with that much,
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/24/2012 1:32 PM, Stuart Lawler wrote:
>>>>>>> Thank you Indigo. How can I apply a fade-in or fade-out to a
>>>>>>> selected piece of audio? In sound forge, I used to select the
>>>>>>> desired audio, go to process and fade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Indigo
>>>>>>> Sent: 24 June 2012 17:04
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Tips for selecting audio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In ReaAccess, you can split any audio track into items by first
>>>>>>> selecting the item.
>>>>>>> I arrow to the track in question and press ctrl+shift+right arrow to
>>>>>>> select hhe item.
>>>>>>> You can then left or right arrow to locate the cursor at the point
>>>>>>> you want the split to occur; then press the S key.
>>>>>>> You then have the portion of the track previous to your split point
>>>>>>> called item 1 and the remainder of the original track as item 2.
>>>>>>> Then you can do what you like with either item, delete it; cut and
>>>>>>> paste it to a new track, whatever.
>>>>>>> You can split these items again and again into ever smaller
>>>>>>> sections; or items as they are called; by the same method.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other people may suggest other methods, there are usually many ways
>>>>>>> to do things in Reaper.
>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/24/2012 10:24 AM, Stuart Lawler wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm still very new to Reaper, but want to learn to do a few things.
>>>>>>>> Thanks to Gianluca, a member of this list I think, I have a nice
>>>>>>>> project template that allows me to set up ducking, so that music
>>>>>>>> fades down nicely when a voiceover is inserted. Now however, I'm
>>>>>>>> wanting to perform some very basic selection commands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm coming from the Sound Forge school of editing, so excuse me if
>>>>>>>> some of these questions are really basic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Firstly, in sound forge, I could press control, shift and end to
>>>>>>>> select from the current point, to the end of a file, for example,
>>>>>>>> to trim off the end of a recording. Is there an equivalent
>>>>>>>> keystroke in Reaper?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also I'd like to know the opposite, in sound forge, I could press
>>>>>>>> control, shift and home, to select from the current position to the
>>>>>>>> beginning of the file, again, is there an equivalent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, in sound forge, there's a nice way to do basic selection, by
>>>>>>>> holding down the shift key and arrowing forward. Does Reaper have
>>>>>>>> such functionality?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stuart.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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