[RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64

Mon Jul 2 19:26:16 EDT 2012

this method really works.
if however , you have multiple tracks in a project , there might be a 
difference between what you're told , and which track actually got altered.
e.g insert 3 or 4 tracks.
change something in the first track e.g record mode , input , etc.
now , go down to another track and try the same method; do you still get a 
report on which track's properties got altered?
thanks a bunch
Roy.
http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64


> Roy, I just looked at Reaper 4.22 again with NVDA.
> I inserted an empty track, armed it, pressed ctrl+up arrow to make the 
> applications menu display.
> Then i selected the item with ctrl+shift+right arrow, even there was no 
> actual item, then pressed the applications key, then down arrowed quickly.
> I got the correct track options menu that begins Monitor input M.
> You can arrow down to click on monitor input midi, or monitor input audio.
> You can also select stereo there, instead of the default mono recording, 
> plus many other track options not offered in ReaAccess from the tab key.
>
> i find that if I don't do that little nonsense step of selecting the non 
> existent  item; when I press the applications key and down arrow; I get 
> another menu that begins with Jump to Marker J
> Once the monitorr input M menu displays, it displays every time after 
> that, no problem.
> This behaveor is exactly the same for me in NVDA or Wineyes; any later 
> Reaper version; in XP or Win7 64.
> Indigo L.
>
>
> On 7/2/2012 3:37 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>> I suspect yes , maybe it's a tiny little fix , but we don't have the
>> source code , and the developers vanished for some odd reason.
>> well ... on to learning Python and re-writing ReaAccess.
>> best
>> Roy.
>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64
>>
>>
>>> I can get to that from the track context menu. Is this now broken with
>>> later versions of reaper? This is actually the main reason I am still
>>> using 3.7.x.
>>> On 7/1/2012 6:29 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>> for instance , the button that , when right-clicked on , brings the 
>>>> menu
>>>> that assigns a track to a particular input; either midi or audio.
>>>> best
>>>> Roy.
>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A while back; just to understand if; and how; it could be done, I
>>>>> installed a fresh copy of Reaper 4X plus ReaAccess, then assigned the
>>>>> audio and midi interface settings, plus tried as many usual actions as
>>>>> I could think of, all with NVDA, and found work arounds for 
>>>>> everything.
>>>>> The part that concerned me was getting the midi portss enabled, which
>>>>> ; when I did them in Wineyes and Jaws; required Wineyes mouse
>>>>> pointer/jaws PC cursor moves at the numPad, but a little
>>>>> experimentation with NVDA +flat review, move to focus, move navigator
>>>>> object to mouse, and I got all midi ports enabled with NVDA.
>>>>> I don't remember trying NVDA in Reaper's IO dialog, but I can't think
>>>>> of anything in there that NVDA can't accomplish.
>>>>> Right click menus seem very similar to what I get with Wineyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have Reaper 4.22 on this Win7 64 machine, so if you want me to
>>>>> try some particular move with NVDA, let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll go to the midi editor and see if it's as easy to edit midi
>>>>> events as with Wineyes.
>>>>> If NVDA will do your midi quantization work arounds; Roy, I think
>>>>> nothing is lacking.
>>>>> I was going to uninstall Reaper, from this computer; since it's
>>>>> totally impossible to run with Wineyes 7.5.22.
>>>>> I prefer Wineyes 6.1 to NVDA; in my XP daw; because I like to look at
>>>>> the whole screen with wineyes num pad navigation keys, and feel half
>>>>> blinded by NVDA's lack of the same entire screen review facility.
>>>>> I don't doubt that very skilled NVDA user can find anything on a
>>>>> screen, it just frustrates me to get only bits and pieces; here and
>>>>> there; with various shortcuts; instead of the entire screen all at
>>>>> once.
>>>>> If NVDA ever gets easy screen navigation at the number pad, look out
>>>>> Jaws and Window-Eyes.
>>>>> My greatest frustration with NVDA lately is; on Win7; that it doesn't
>>>>> pop up Win7's U A C dialog for me.
>>>>> Instead it goes silent.
>>>>> I have poked around with the spacebar and pressing Y for yes, and
>>>>> actually got programs to run, but it's just guessing; no confirmation
>>>>> speech during the U A C dialog.
>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/1/2012 11:17 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>> I haven't actually needed to access those controls in that way, since
>>>>>> I can do all that through ReaAccess. I am still using Reaper 3.7.x by
>>>>>> choice. Maybe things are different now, not sure.
>>>>>> Case in point though. NVDA sometimes won't see stuff like that, but
>>>>>> it reads the Izotope RX stand-alone stuff better than System Access
>>>>>> does, or Jaws, for that matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This entire discussion is kind of ironic, since all but one of the
>>>>>> SeroTalk podcasts are produced with Reaper... using NVDA. Oops!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Roy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi Patrick
>>>>>>> do you succeed in reading and right-clicking all the track control
>>>>>>> panel buttons using NVDA? e.g the i/o button , monitoring etc; these
>>>>>>> seem to read just with System Access's virtual mouse mode.
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Perdue
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:54 PM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, System Access does, indeed, work fine with ReaAccess. It uses
>>>>>>> the same API NVDA does. I prefer using it with NVDA though, as it
>>>>>>> reads some of the plugin interfaces a bit better than System Access
>>>>>>> does. Functionality is basically the same with all the stock Reaper
>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>> But, as is always the case, SA occasionally gets things that NVDA
>>>>>>> misses, and the other way around.
>>>>>>> It hasn't been a one screenreader world for a while now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Roy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yeh , system access works with no problems also on 64-bit with
>>>>>>>> Reaper 64-bit.
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Brown
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:08 PM
>>>>>>>> To: rwp at reaaccess.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you tryed system access?,...system access runs reaper with no
>>>>>>>> problems,...I've been using it for 6 years now...
>>>>>>>>
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