[RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Sun Jul 1 16:34:24 EDT 2012


A while back; just to understand if; and how; it could be done, I 
installed a fresh copy of Reaper 4X plus ReaAccess, then assigned  the 
audio and midi interface settings, plus tried as many usual actions as I 
could think of, all with NVDA, and found work arounds for everything.
The part that concerned me was getting the midi portss enabled, which ; 
when I did them in Wineyes and Jaws; required Wineyes mouse pointer/jaws 
PC cursor moves at the numPad, but a little experimentation with NVDA 
+flat review, move to focus, move navigator object to mouse, and I got 
all midi ports enabled with NVDA.
I don't remember trying NVDA in Reaper's IO dialog, but I can't think of 
anything in there that NVDA can't accomplish.
Right click menus seem very similar to what I get with Wineyes.

I still have Reaper 4.22 on this Win7 64 machine, so if you want me to 
try some particular move with NVDA, let me know.

I'll go to the midi editor and see if it's as easy to edit  midi events 
as with Wineyes.
If NVDA will do your midi quantization work arounds; Roy, I think 
nothing is lacking.
I was going to uninstall Reaper, from this computer; since it's totally 
impossible to run with Wineyes 7.5.22.
I prefer Wineyes 6.1 to NVDA; in my XP daw; because I like to look at 
the whole screen with wineyes num pad navigation keys, and feel half 
blinded by NVDA's lack of the same entire screen review facility.
I don't doubt that very skilled NVDA user can find anything on a screen, 
it just frustrates me to get only bits and pieces; here and there; with 
various shortcuts; instead of the entire screen all at once.
If NVDA ever gets easy screen navigation at the number pad, look out 
Jaws and Window-Eyes.
My greatest frustration with NVDA lately is; on Win7;  that it doesn't 
pop up Win7's U A C dialog for me.
Instead it goes silent.
I have poked around with the spacebar and pressing Y for yes, and 
actually got programs to run, but it's just guessing; no confirmation 
speech during the U A C dialog.
Indigo L




On 7/1/2012 11:17 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
> I haven't actually needed to access those controls in that way, since I can do all that through ReaAccess. I am still using Reaper 3.7.x by choice. Maybe things are different now, not sure.
> Case in point though. NVDA sometimes won't see stuff like that, but it reads the Izotope RX stand-alone stuff better than System Access does, or Jaws, for that matter.
>
> This entire discussion is kind of ironic, since all but one of the SeroTalk podcasts are produced with Reaper... using NVDA. Oops!
>
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Roy wrote:
>
>> hi Patrick
>> do you succeed in reading and right-clicking all the track control panel buttons using NVDA? e.g the i/o button , monitoring etc; these seem to read just with System Access's virtual mouse mode.
>> cheers
>> Roy.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Perdue
>> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:54 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64
>>
>> Yep, System Access does, indeed, work fine with ReaAccess. It uses the same API NVDA does. I prefer using it with NVDA though, as it reads some of the plugin interfaces a bit better than System Access does. Functionality is basically the same with all the stock Reaper stuff.
>> But, as is always the case, SA occasionally gets things that NVDA misses, and the other way around.
>> It hasn't been a one screenreader world for a while now.
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>> yeh , system access works with no problems also on 64-bit with Reaper 64-bit.
>>> cheers
>>> Roy.
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Brown
>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:08 PM
>>> To: rwp at reaaccess.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Windoweyes Still Can't Run Reaper 64
>>>
>>> Have you tryed system access?,...system access runs reaper with no
>>> problems,...I've been using it for 6 years now...
>>>
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