[RWP] Success Running Reaper With Behringer BCF2000

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Indigo,

Just a thought, I wonder whether something like DocuScan Plus from
Serotek might be able to OCR those Behringer PDF's? Last time I
checked in, they were running a free 7 day trial.

Scott

On 2/11/12, indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> I've set it up twice now, because last night I updated the Behringer USB
> midi driver and managed to make the setup stop working.
> Yes, it is a very strange configuration procedure from my screenreader.
> I think decades of running winize, with no help from scripts, has taught
> me to try every possible move to reach elusive buttons; especially using
> the number padcursor.
>
> I've only done it in Window-Eyes, and I couldn't have got it done
> without Wineyes's read previous and read next item; numpad insert plus 7
> or 9; which exposed a little blank area just before the Midi Input and
> Midi output buttons.
> As sometimes occurs, Winize is speaking the buttons a few pixels off
> their correct position, so no amount of clicking on those buttons gets
> them to react.
> My wife had no problem left clicking them from the physical mouse.
>
> In winize, when I left clicked from the number pad in that little
> blankplace just before the spoken button, the list of choices for Midi
> Input and Midi Output appear at the arrow keys.
> I'll try looking at the same assignment procedure with Jaws 10 today, to
> learn how to do it with Jaws.
> I honestly don't know if N V D A can be made to provide enough
> information to do the assignment, since it's review from the number pad
> is very limited; but Sometimes N V D A surprises me by providing more
> info than Window-Eyes at the tab and arrow keys, I hope so in this case.
> By doing it twice now, I've simplified the procedure, and eliminated
> some of the unnecessary moves.
>
> Except for easy writing and reading automation, so far, everything you
> get from the BCF2000 you can do from ReaAccess, it's just quicker and
> more impressive from a control surface.
>
> Now, the puzzle has become determining exactly what the control surface
> buttons and their shift buttons are doing in Reaper.
> To make it all even more fun, way too many of the Behringer PDF
> documents are in bit map image.
> Well, eventually I hope to get those read by my very busy wife, so I'll
> somehow get it all sorted out.
> Indigo L
>
> On 2/11/2012 1:58 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Awesome, even if the setup process is a little strange.
>>
>> Keep us posted on how you get on when you throw Tim's MDR into the mix
>> man.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 2/10/12, indigo<33indigo at charter.net>  wrote:
>>> Yea, I think I got it!
>>> I followed a combination of directions from a YouTube video, and the
>>> directions I got from a Gear Heads forum.
>>> In my Reaper 3.78, Windows XP 32 bit, and Window-Eyes 6.1, the BCF2000
>>> must be disabled in Reaper's options/preferences/Midi Devices; just the
>>> opposite of
>>> the directions for running Sonar with the Mackie Display Reader, where
>>> the BCF2000 must be enabled in Sonar's Midi Devices.
>>> I set the BCR2000 in Mackie Mode Sonar, opened reaper, went to
>>> options/preferences/midi devices, enabled and then disabled the BCF2000
>>> settings; just to wake up the settings and make sure they took.
>>> This time I got the apply button that should have been there before, but
>>> wasn't.
>>> I hit apply; then okay.
>>> Then I went to Reaper's options/preferences/control surface; double
>>> clicked on the Remove button at the number pad; to removed any previous
>>> assignment, double clicked on add and selected Mackie Mode Universal
>>> from the list of 8 modes the BCF2000 sends.
>>> I went to the number pad and single left clicked on Mackie Mode
>>> Universal, and got Mackie DEV 55; 1 of 1;  in that same edit boxwhere
>>> Mackie Mode Universal was shown before.
>>> Still at the number pad, I went to Midi Output, and this time the
>>> current input and output settings were shown on a line above Midi Input
>>> and on a line above Midi Output.
>>> I single left clicked each of the setting that were displayed; and a
>>> menu dropped at the arrow keys.
>>> The BCF2000 shows 2 settings in Midi Input, BCF2000, and below that
>>> BCF2000, with a 2 in parentheses.
>>> I selected the top setting.
>>> In Midi Output the BCF2000 shows 3 settings, BCF2000, below that BCF2000
>>> (2) and below that BCF2000 (3).
>>> I also chose the top setting for Midi output
>>> Then I hit okay, closed and reopened Reaper, and the faders immediately
>>> jumped to tracks 1 through 8, I pushed the right bank button and the
>>> faders jumped to tracks 9 through 16, then 17 through 24, etcetera;
>>> through the 32 track project.
>>> Each time the faders jumped to a different bank of tracks they took a
>>> different position, showing that Reaper is sending track level
>>> information to the BCF2000, and the fader positions indicate the track's
>>> level.
>>> The transport buttons work as expected. The V Pots send pan for each
>>> track..
>>> In Reaper the top mute button sets a marker at the current position, and
>>> holding the upper shift button while pressing the top button mutes the
>>> track, not quite the same as in Sonar.
>>> I'm sure there are many more settings to discover yet, with the
>>> combinations of shift buttons and other buttons.
>>> Best of all, ReaAccess seems totally unaffected, everything I tested in
>>> ReaAccess still works as expected.
>>> When I exit Reaper I no longer lose speech, as in my last experiment
>>> It looks very  much like the BCF2000 adds to the access we already get
>>> from ReaAccess, to do automations, and should be very useful during
>>> mixdown.
>>> I even got some speech from ReaAccess, announcing setting Marker 1 when
>>> I pushed the top button.
>>>
>>> Now I'm wondering what those other BCF2000 settings in Midi Input and
>>> Midi Output will do.
>>> Next, I'll try connecting Tim Burgess's Mackie Display Reader between
>>> the BCF2000 and Reaper, with virtual midi cables, and maybe I'll get
>>> spoken feedback as to what each of the BCF2000's controls is doing.
>>> Indigo L
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