[RWP] Success Running Reaper With Behringer BCF2000
indigo
33indigo at charter.net
Sat Feb 11 14:43:26 EST 2012
Hi Scott,
I've set it up twice now, because last night I updated the Behringer USB
midi driver and managed to make the setup stop working.
Yes, it is a very strange configuration procedure from my screenreader.
I think decades of running winize, with no help from scripts, has taught
me to try every possible move to reach elusive buttons; especially using
the number padcursor.
I've only done it in Window-Eyes, and I couldn't have got it done
without Wineyes's read previous and read next item; numpad insert plus 7
or 9; which exposed a little blank area just before the Midi Input and
Midi output buttons.
As sometimes occurs, Winize is speaking the buttons a few pixels off
their correct position, so no amount of clicking on those buttons gets
them to react.
My wife had no problem left clicking them from the physical mouse.
In winize, when I left clicked from the number pad in that little
blankplace just before the spoken button, the list of choices for Midi
Input and Midi Output appear at the arrow keys.
I'll try looking at the same assignment procedure with Jaws 10 today, to
learn how to do it with Jaws.
I honestly don't know if N V D A can be made to provide enough
information to do the assignment, since it's review from the number pad
is very limited; but Sometimes N V D A surprises me by providing more
info than Window-Eyes at the tab and arrow keys, I hope so in this case.
By doing it twice now, I've simplified the procedure, and eliminated
some of the unnecessary moves.
Except for easy writing and reading automation, so far, everything you
get from the BCF2000 you can do from ReaAccess, it's just quicker and
more impressive from a control surface.
Now, the puzzle has become determining exactly what the control surface
buttons and their shift buttons are doing in Reaper.
To make it all even more fun, way too many of the Behringer PDF
documents are in bit map image.
Well, eventually I hope to get those read by my very busy wife, so I'll
somehow get it all sorted out.
Indigo L
On 2/11/2012 1:58 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Awesome, even if the setup process is a little strange.
>
> Keep us posted on how you get on when you throw Tim's MDR into the mix man.
>
> Scott
>
> On 2/10/12, indigo<33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>> Yea, I think I got it!
>> I followed a combination of directions from a YouTube video, and the
>> directions I got from a Gear Heads forum.
>> In my Reaper 3.78, Windows XP 32 bit, and Window-Eyes 6.1, the BCF2000
>> must be disabled in Reaper's options/preferences/Midi Devices; just the
>> opposite of
>> the directions for running Sonar with the Mackie Display Reader, where
>> the BCF2000 must be enabled in Sonar's Midi Devices.
>> I set the BCR2000 in Mackie Mode Sonar, opened reaper, went to
>> options/preferences/midi devices, enabled and then disabled the BCF2000
>> settings; just to wake up the settings and make sure they took.
>> This time I got the apply button that should have been there before, but
>> wasn't.
>> I hit apply; then okay.
>> Then I went to Reaper's options/preferences/control surface; double
>> clicked on the Remove button at the number pad; to removed any previous
>> assignment, double clicked on add and selected Mackie Mode Universal
>> from the list of 8 modes the BCF2000 sends.
>> I went to the number pad and single left clicked on Mackie Mode
>> Universal, and got Mackie DEV 55; 1 of 1; in that same edit boxwhere
>> Mackie Mode Universal was shown before.
>> Still at the number pad, I went to Midi Output, and this time the
>> current input and output settings were shown on a line above Midi Input
>> and on a line above Midi Output.
>> I single left clicked each of the setting that were displayed; and a
>> menu dropped at the arrow keys.
>> The BCF2000 shows 2 settings in Midi Input, BCF2000, and below that
>> BCF2000, with a 2 in parentheses.
>> I selected the top setting.
>> In Midi Output the BCF2000 shows 3 settings, BCF2000, below that BCF2000
>> (2) and below that BCF2000 (3).
>> I also chose the top setting for Midi output
>> Then I hit okay, closed and reopened Reaper, and the faders immediately
>> jumped to tracks 1 through 8, I pushed the right bank button and the
>> faders jumped to tracks 9 through 16, then 17 through 24, etcetera;
>> through the 32 track project.
>> Each time the faders jumped to a different bank of tracks they took a
>> different position, showing that Reaper is sending track level
>> information to the BCF2000, and the fader positions indicate the track's
>> level.
>> The transport buttons work as expected. The V Pots send pan for each
>> track..
>> In Reaper the top mute button sets a marker at the current position, and
>> holding the upper shift button while pressing the top button mutes the
>> track, not quite the same as in Sonar.
>> I'm sure there are many more settings to discover yet, with the
>> combinations of shift buttons and other buttons.
>> Best of all, ReaAccess seems totally unaffected, everything I tested in
>> ReaAccess still works as expected.
>> When I exit Reaper I no longer lose speech, as in my last experiment
>> It looks very much like the BCF2000 adds to the access we already get
>> from ReaAccess, to do automations, and should be very useful during
>> mixdown.
>> I even got some speech from ReaAccess, announcing setting Marker 1 when
>> I pushed the top button.
>>
>> Now I'm wondering what those other BCF2000 settings in Midi Input and
>> Midi Output will do.
>> Next, I'll try connecting Tim Burgess's Mackie Display Reader between
>> the BCF2000 and Reaper, with virtual midi cables, and maybe I'll get
>> spoken feedback as to what each of the BCF2000's controls is doing.
>> Indigo L
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