[RWP] Links to run Reaper from BCF2000 control surface

[Rikki Chaplin]

Hi,
Thanks for this Indigo.  I am about to investigate sound 
cards/control surfaces.  I have an Echo Audiofire 4, (I just 
wanted to start off small a few years ago and never got around to 
it), which I have recently found is faulty.  It is not being 
recognised when I plug it into the firewire card I just bought 
for my laptop, and I have tried it on a second firewire card with 
the same result, confirmed by a local computer shop.  So I will 
need to either get it repaired, (if it's even possible), or get a 
new one.  So I'm reading this thread about the Behringer BCF2000 
with great interest, as I intend to sort this out next week when 
I get to a decent music shop.

My question is, I just looked at both the Bcf 2000 and the Mackie 
control surface whose name escapes me at the moment, and I notice 
that the Behringer is about a tenth  of the price of the Mackie! 
Why is this? Does a brand name really attract such a price 
difference! Also, of course I know the Mackie is much more 
expensive, but wouldn't it be easier to have the Mackie work with 
Reaper in that you wouldn't have to install the Klinke plugin and 
configure that? I may well be on the wrong track here, so any 
recommendations on USB audio/midi interfaces would be good.  I 
don't want something too big.  I want to start out small, see how 
I go and work up from there.  Midi  is not something I'm familiar 
with configuring, but I want to get into that so I'm able to at 
least record good quality demos both for myself and others.  Any 
suggestions on audio/midi interfaces as I say would be good.  I 
have a couple in mind but feedback would be welcome.

Regards,
Rikki.

----- Original Message -----
From: indigo <33indigo at charter.net
To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com
Date sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:23:10 -0500
Subject: [RWP] Links to run Reaper from BCF2000 control surface

 Content preview:  Okay, here are links to the Cockos forum where 
everything
   about running Reaper from the Behringer BCF2000 control 
surface have been
   gathered in 1 place, plus a link where you can download 
Klinke's plug by Nofish.
    Klinke is the programmer who developed the VST plug to set up 
a Behringer
    BCF2000 to run Reaper, and I think Nofish is the English 
translater.  Below
    that is what passes for a users guide by musicbynumber to how 
Klinke's plug
    sets up the controls on the Behringer BCF2000.  All this is 
still evolving,
    but sighted users on the forums are saying it works well, and 
my own BCF2000
    is on its way, so I'll try Klinke's plug soon.  [...]

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Okay, here are links to the Cockos forum where everything about 
running
Reaper from the Behringer BCF2000 control surface have been 
gathered in
1 place, plus a link where you can download Klinke's plug by 
Nofish.
Klinke is the programmer who developed the VST plug to set up a
Behringer BCF2000 to run Reaper, and I think Nofish is the 
English
translater.
Below that is what passes for a users guide by musicbynumber
to how Klinke's plug sets up the controls on the Behringer 
BCF2000.
All this is still evolving, but sighted users on the forums are 
saying
it works well, and my own BCF2000 is on its  way, so I'll try 
Klinke's
plug soon.

Along with this plug to set up the BCF2000 for Reaper, is the new 
Mackie
Reader, which will provide speech for all controls on the 
BCF2000.
  The Mackie Reader is in its final stages of development and 
coming soon.
I'll posts links for Mackie Reader as soon as possible.

Indigo L

Central Cockos Forum for running Reaper from Behringer BCF2000:
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=60110
Link to find Klinke's plug by Nofish; for setting up BCF2000 to 
run Reaper:
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=60110


Mackie Control now with plugin control ;-) And with Action-Mode.
musicbynumber
BCF2000 help guide thing..  very rough

First things first
you have to get the latest behringer usb drivers for it to work 
well
over usb (never tried it over midi).  They are multiclient and 
that's
what's needed to talk with the BcfView and reaper at the same 
time.  That
is probably why none of it's
This link gives you a guide to the bcf in mcu cubase mode
http://www.behringerdownload.de/BCF2...tion_modes.pdf

There's an overview for the controls but only when it's set up 
for sonar
mcu so I will try and get round to making a picture but here's an 
idea.
---top group of 4 buttons..

-top left one is a shift key and does solo and record arm and 
some
automation modes using the group of 4 below it) and in 
combination with
the top right it does flip mode.
-the bottom left is also a shift key that allows you to also use 
the
group of four below it to change automation modes (and some stuff 
on the
transport controls too but not sure yet) EDIT: it also gives you 
8
function keys (cc's in action list) that are the 8 select buttons 
(you
have 8 more with the real shift key but hard to get to)
-the top right is sends mode, press again for recieves mode 
(makes
headphone sends a dream to work with.
-the bottom right seems to be a toggle switch too but only in fx 
and
action mode.

--middle group of four.

-bottom left is normal pan and channel mode (use control to 
select
multiple tracks unless you have the original select method on)

-top left is action mode, this is stunning, if you have relative 
mode on
for that encoder you get a midi cc sent on push, release and turn 
BUT
just as cool is if you take relative mode off you now get a cc 
sent on a
clockwise turn and a different one on anti clockwise and they 
repeat
with each click so this allows you to do cool things like stretch 
and
item or shorten it by turning a knob or timestretch or pitch or 
any
commands that have a positive and negative adjust.  It's very 
powerful!

top right is also fx mode, note, the rotary encoders can be used 
for
things like frequency but the have to be learnt (you have to go 
through
all the steps) but this also allows them to be used for things 
like eq
type and they even get the right names once you get used to it, 
it is
fast and powerful and far superior even to automap (which I have 
two
devices)

-bottom right seems to be a toggle modifier again still learning 
it.


--two buttons on their own.

-bank left and right but if you hold one of the shifts they move 
through
single channels instead of banks of 8.



--bottom four buttons

-the usual, stop, play, fast forward and reverse, the shifts do 
things
like activate record and cycle.

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