[RWP] Another fix for No Presets

Tue Apr 10 22:11:44 EDT 2012

Nope,  they said I should have a nice walk, in any particular direction..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Another fix for No Presets

> yes. anybody know if that petition got any traction with the 
> developer either?
> 
> At 10:48 PM 4/9/2012, you wrote:
>>What we need to find a way to say to the reaper developers is, 
>>hey, goof ball, try operating the effects presets combobox with a 
>>keyboard.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "colin McDonald" 
>><blulemon at telus.net>
>>To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 5:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [RWP] Another fix for No Presets
>>
>>
>>>now, if only we could figure out why this peculiarity exists with 
>>>reaper versions 4 and up, and not with versions before V4...
>>>and, it doesn't happen with all onboard reaper plug ins...for 
>>>instance, the ReasComp plug in has the no preset business, but 
>>>the modern andris, and jaramis comps both show all presets 
>>>without using page down and they don't have the no preset or 
>>>factory reset stuff.
>>>It seems to be rather random as to when you might run into the 
>>>factory reset and no preset senario.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Colin
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 4:32 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [RWP] Another fix for No Presets
>>>
>>>
>>>>This is too strange to believe, but your page down now works for 
>>>>NVDA also.
>>>>I just tried several effects, and, although the combo box didn't 
>>>>show No Presets, no presets were displayed until I pressed Page 
>>>>Down, and there they are. I press enter on 1 of them, and the 
>>>>tab key is full of nice things to edit.
>>>>I was in Rea EQ, and hereat the tab key in NVDA  are the bands, 
>>>>with hertz range, edit boxes for db, all you'd expect from an 
>>>>equalizer.
>>>>Your page down fix seems universal.
>>>>Well, this isn't the firsttime the computer gremlins have had a 
>>>>good laugh at my expense.
>>>>Indigo L
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 4/9/2012 3:39 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>>>Yep, I think you're navigating there using the mouse, which 
>>>>>will also work.
>>>>>But, the page down trick, if it works for you , is even 
>>>>>quicker, because
>>>>>you don't have to mouse around finding anything. Just tab to the
>>>>>combobox, press page down, then arrow to the preset you like, 
>>>>>or type
>>>>>it's first letter, and you are rockin.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:37 AM
>>>>>Subject: [RWP] Another fix for No Presets
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In Wineyes, yet to be tested in Jaws, when in the effects 
>>>>>>combo box,
>>>>>>is displaying No Presets, I went to my number pad, left 
>>>>>>clicked on the
>>>>>>words No Presets, then arrowed down at the number pad and 
>>>>>>there is a
>>>>>>wonderful stack of presets, with their associated values.
>>>>>>I left clicked at the number pad on both preset names and values;
>>>>>>which caused them to appear in an edit box at the middle arrow 
>>>>>>keys,
>>>>>>where they can be up and down arrowed through and edited.
>>>>>>After selecting a new value, hit enter and the new value 
>>>>>>appears at
>>>>>>the number pad.
>>>>>>Same for parameters with selections, click on the preset selection
>>>>>>shown at the number pad, a list of selections appears at the 
>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>arrow keys in the same edit box, arrow up or down to a 
>>>>>>selection, hit
>>>>>>enter and the preset's new selection is shown at the number pad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is the method I will use in Wineyes, so much better for 
>>>>>>me than
>>>>>>fooling with the PAREM menu, which also works, but this is so much
>>>>>>simpler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll try it next in Jaws 13.
>>>>>>I still have no idea how to get lists of parameters to appear 
>>>>>>at the
>>>>>>number pad or elsewhere in NVDA.
>>>>>>I verified Mario's suggestion.
>>>>>>In NVDA, with PARAM at the tab key, I pressed the applications 
>>>>>>key and
>>>>>>it immediately opened the param menu.
>>>>>>I clicked on Show At Track Controls andpressed enter, and I got
>>>>>>flitting glimpses of parameters and values at the same combo 
>>>>>>box that
>>>>>>shows No Presets, but any presets or values disappeared 
>>>>>>immideately as
>>>>>>soon as I arrow to them, so how to expose effect presets and 
>>>>>>values is
>>>>>>still a puzzle for me in NVDA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Incidentally, also in Wineyes, tabbing to PAREM and pressing the
>>>>>>applications key opens the PAREM menu, easier than looking for the
>>>>>>word PAREM and clicking on it at the number pad.
>>>>>>Indigo L
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