[RWP] Another fix for No Presets

[indigo]

My apologies, Jim, I just went back and got your page down fix to work 
every time for both Jaws and Wineyes.
I couldn't get it to work for NVDA, but I managed to get that dreaded 
phrase: No Presets in focus; with insert plus dash; which is NVDA's move 
to focus, left clicked it; and although I was cast out of the effects 
routing page back to track view, when I went back to effects routing 
page, there in that combo box were all the presets, so NVDA can at least 
use some varient of my click on No Presets fix.
There may yet yet be a way for page down to fix NVDA,  I just don't know 
how yet.
Your page down  is for sure and certain the easiest fix for Jaws and 
Wineyes.
Now, I somehow need to understand why; when I tried page down repeatedly 
before, I never got the presets.
Very spooky mysterious this world, seems to be some kind of joke the 
universe is playing on me!
Indigo L



On 4/9/2012 4:32 PM, indigo wrote:
> I just can't get page down to work, Jim.
> I was in Reaper 2 minutes ago with Jaws 13 demo, I inserted an empty
> track, pressed f, loaded ReaComp, and got No Presets right away.
> I pressed insert+dash; what is that, route Jaws to PC? fclicked on No
> Presets at the number pad, and there in that combo box was the culprit,
> choice 1, Reset To Factory Defaults, and choice 2, No Presets.
> If we could find a way for it to always choose choice 1, Reset To
> Factory Defaults, we wouldn't need to do any fancy footwork to get the
> presets.
> Since these are factory effects, apparently they need to be Reset to
> Factory Defaults before they're ready to use.
> Instead of our workarounds, we should understand why they are not
> getting what they need from the screenreaders.
> I'm trying to think if there's a setting in Wineyes to make it select
> the first of those choices, instead of the second.
>
>
> I hit enter on Reset to Factory Defaults and, as before, all the ReaComp
> presets are at the tab key.
> Every push of the tab key has an edit box at the arrow keys for a
> selection with the arrows, or a number to be typed in, etcetera.
> Looks like total access to me.
> I don't keep any third party plugs on this old machine, but I'll go and
> download a free plug somewhere, and see if it displays its parameters
> instantly, without voodoo work.
> I'll go back once more with Jaws 13 and learn if page down does anything
> while in the No Presets box.
> If not it must be partly a hardware issue, different on different
> computers, since you and I are both on XP.
>
> On 4/9/2012 3:39 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>> Yep, I think you're navigating there using the mouse, which will also
>> work.
>> But, the page down trick, if it works for you , is even quicker, because
>> you don't have to mouse around finding anything. Just tab to the
>> combobox, press page down, then arrow to the preset you like, or type
>> it's first letter, and you are rockin.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:37 AM
>> Subject: [RWP] Another fix for No Presets
>>
>>
>>> In Wineyes, yet to be tested in Jaws, when in the effects combo box,
>>> is displaying No Presets, I went to my number pad, left clicked on the
>>> words No Presets, then arrowed down at the number pad and there is a
>>> wonderful stack of presets, with their associated values.
>>> I left clicked at the number pad on both preset names and values;
>>> which caused them to appear in an edit box at the middle arrow keys,
>>> where they can be up and down arrowed through and edited.
>>> After selecting a new value, hit enter and the new value appears at
>>> the number pad.
>>> Same for parameters with selections, click on the preset selection
>>> shown at the number pad, a list of selections appears at the middle
>>> arrow keys in the same edit box, arrow up or down to a selection, hit
>>> enter and the preset's new selection is shown at the number pad.
>>>
>>> This is the method I will use in Wineyes, so much better for me than
>>> fooling with the PAREM menu, which also works, but this is so much
>>> simpler.
>>>
>>> I'll try it next in Jaws 13.
>>> I still have no idea how to get lists of parameters to appear at the
>>> number pad or elsewhere in NVDA.
>>> I verified Mario's suggestion.
>>> In NVDA, with PARAM at the tab key, I pressed the applications key and
>>> it immediately opened the param menu.
>>> I clicked on Show At Track Controls andpressed enter, and I got
>>> flitting glimpses of parameters and values at the same combo box that
>>> shows No Presets, but any presets or values disappeared immideately as
>>> soon as I arrow to them, so how to expose effect presets and values is
>>> still a puzzle for me in NVDA.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, also in Wineyes, tabbing to PAREM and pressing the
>>> applications key opens the PAREM menu, easier than looking for the
>>> word PAREM and clicking on it at the number pad.
>>> Indigo L
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