[RWP] Another fix for No Presets

[indigo]

I just tested the clicking on No Presets method in Jaws 13.
I got No Presets showing in that combo box, then routed Jaws to PC, 
found the wordsNo Preset at the numPad, left clicked on it and the 
preset appeared at the middle arrow keys.
Here's something interesting, though, Jim.
You're right that Jaws is ignoring the first choice when it displays No 
Presets.
I could click on No Presets at the number pad, and see that first choice 
that Jaws was not showing, which is Reset To Factory Defaults. displayed 
at the mid arrow keys.
If I pressed  enter on reset to factory defaults  all the presets 
appeared at the mid arrow keys.
I'm not competent in Jaws, but Jaws 13 displayed presets and values to 
be edited for almost all effects
I found the presets at my tab key, not in that combo box.


I tabbed to a particular preset in the list at the tab key, , pressed 
enter, arrowed up/down to a value, tabbed up twice to an edit box and 
changed numeric values, and hit enter.
When I tabbed back down twice to the preset's display; the new value was 
shown there.
It seemed difficult to get Jaws 13 not to display presets and the edit 
box, but when I found some effects that showed No Presets, the method of 
routing jaws to pc, then arrowing at the number pad to the words No 
Presets and left clicking fixed the issue.

This looks like no issue for either Jaws or Window-Eyes, with several 
solutions that work, at least when running XP.
Indigo L




On 4/9/2012 9:37 AM, indigo wrote:
> In Wineyes, yet to be tested in Jaws, when in the effects combo box, is
> displaying No Presets, I went to my number pad, left clicked on the
> words No Presets, then arrowed down at the number pad and there is a
> wonderful stack of presets, with their associated values.
> I left clicked at the number pad on both preset names and values; which
> caused them to appear in an edit box at the middle arrow keys, where
> they can be up and down arrowed through and edited.
> After selecting a new value, hit enter and the new value appears at the
> number pad.
> Same for parameters with selections, click on the preset selection shown
> at the number pad, a list of selections appears at the middle arrow keys
> in the same edit box, arrow up or down to a selection, hit enter and the
> preset's new selection is shown at the number pad.
>
> This is the method I will use in Wineyes, so much better for me than
> fooling with the PAREM menu, which also works, but this is so much simpler.
>
> I'll try it next in Jaws 13.
> I still have no idea how to get lists of parameters to appear at the
> number pad or elsewhere in NVDA.
> I verified Mario's suggestion.
> In NVDA, with PARAM at the tab key, I pressed the applications key and
> it immediately opened the param menu.
> I clicked on Show At Track Controls andpressed enter, and I got flitting
> glimpses of parameters and values at the same combo box that shows No
> Presets, but any presets or values disappeared immideately as soon as I
> arrow to them, so how to expose effect presets and values is still a
> puzzle for me in NVDA.
>
> Incidentally, also in Wineyes, tabbing to PAREM and pressing the
> applications key opens the PAREM menu, easier than looking for the word
> PAREM and clicking on it at the number pad.
> Indigo L
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