[RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess

Fri Sep 30 09:26:55 EDT 2011

I'd gladly do the programming part.
am arranging some c++/vb developement tools with which it'll be possible to 
compile/debug/build projects etc.
cheers
Roy.
www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess


>I guess if I felt comfortable myself in NVDA  and could get around Reaper 
>with it I would have thought of it, but you're right, NVDA would do fine; 
>and be simpler to get, and wouldn't time out after 30 minutes.
> I don't think we can expect Tim of SWS to be our programmer, though, just 
> an adviser.
> We must have someone with those skills among us; who would know what's 
> needed from our point of view
> I wouldn't be the right one, since my problem is that I'm not discontented 
> with Reaper and ReaAccess as they are.
> I work very simply in Reaper, I know that when I arrow up or down to a 
> track it's selected, and I would resent the program speaking a reminder; 
> like, "You have selected track 1."
> I'm always trying to disable verbosity in a program, that's why I can't 
> work in NVDA; it's constantly babbling about what row and column I'm on, 
> and I don't care, I just wanta get on with my work in peace.
> I'm curious, though, to learn how much work it would be to make minor 
> tweaks to ReaAccess with SWS code.
>
> aOn 9/30/2011 6:51 AM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>> even easier , point him to NVDA; no need for complex installations ,
>> mirror drivers etc.
>> best
>> Roy.
>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>
>>
>>> I thought of that, and think I will send Tim links to ReaAccess and
>>> demos of Jaws and Window-Eyes.
>>> I once had a program author who took a real interest in making his
>>> program screenreader friendly, and actually checked out changes he
>>> made with demo screenreaders, so he could see for himself how changes
>>> impacted screenreaders.
>>> We may not run into them every day, but there are some real kind and
>>> considerate human beings out there.
>>>
>>> On 9/29/2011 2:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>>> Have you pointed him to the actual dll?
>>>> Maybe he would find reaaccess initially interesting for more than just
>>>> us blindies, as he seemed to imply in his message
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, list members, we have Tim Payne of Still Water Studios onboard
>>>>> with the possibility of extending ReaAccess into STS code, which is
>>>>> open source.
>>>>> What that means is that if things do not go well for ReaAccess from
>>>>> Ivan's group, we can get into programming ReaAccess to suit our needs.
>>>>> Let's take a wait and see attitude at this point, since we may be
>>>>> worrying for nothing and Ivan will come through yet with a great new
>>>>> version of ReaAccess.
>>>>> Even so, Jinseng has already used SWS code to correct problems in the
>>>>> present version of ReaAccess, so apparently we could do both, use
>>>>> ReaAccess as developed by Ivan, plus tweak it with SWS code.
>>>>> I'm definitely not a programmer, so which of us is volunteering to be
>>>>> RWP's SWS programmer in Chief?
>>>>> Below is Tim's wonderfully kind response to my inquiry:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/2011 10:57 AM, Tim Payne wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Indigo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, I will do anything I can to help your community. Please
>>>>>> pass my contact info on to your group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One possibility is the option of integrating ReaAccess into the SWS
>>>>>> extension. The SWS project is open source and I welcome any and all
>>>>>> contributions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Indigo<33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>> I'm one among over 50 blind musicians now using Reaper, with the
>>>>>>> help of a
>>>>>>> sort of control panel called ReaAccess.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately for our communicating with the author of ReaAccess,
>>>>>>> he's a
>>>>>>> Russian speaker with no English, and it's become uncertain whether
>>>>>>> he will
>>>>>>> do more updates for ReaAccess, which is still buggy and incomplete.
>>>>>>> One of the blind Reaper users has used your SWS script to correct
>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>> things that didn't work in ReaAccess.
>>>>>>> I'm no programmer myself, but I love Reaper's simplicity and
>>>>>>> friendliness,
>>>>>>> and I would hate to see access by blind musicians to Reaper bog down
>>>>>>> at this
>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>> With Reaper, ReaAccess, and any old computer it's now possible for
>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>> time for a very poor musician anywhere in the world to produce
>>>>>>> music, and
>>>>>>> I'd like it, if possible, to stay affordible and to work well.
>>>>>>> If the Russian programmer can't do more to bring ReaAccess up to
>>>>>>> date with
>>>>>>> Reaper 4, do you think you could help with improving ReaAccess with
>>>>>>> your SWS
>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>> If we can find a programmer in our user's group to do the actual
>>>>>>> programming, do you think you could maybe provide some advice when
>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>> stuck?
>>>>>>> We'd appreciate help on any level at all,
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Indigo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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