[RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Fri Sep 30 08:20:16 EDT 2011


I guess if I felt comfortable myself in NVDA  and could get around 
Reaper with it I would have thought of it, but you're right, NVDA would 
do fine; and be simpler to get, and wouldn't time out after 30 minutes.
I don't think we can expect Tim of SWS to be our programmer, though, 
just an adviser.
We must have someone with those skills among us; who would know what's 
needed from our point of view
I wouldn't be the right one, since my problem is that I'm not 
discontented with Reaper and ReaAccess as they are.
I work very simply in Reaper, I know that when I arrow up or down to a 
track it's selected, and I would resent the program speaking a reminder; 
like, "You have selected track 1."
I'm always trying to disable verbosity in a program, that's why I can't 
work in NVDA; it's constantly babbling about what row and column I'm on, 
and I don't care, I just wanta get on with my work in peace.
I'm curious, though, to learn how much work it would be to make minor 
tweaks to ReaAccess with SWS code.

aOn 9/30/2011 6:51 AM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
> even easier , point him to NVDA; no need for complex installations ,
> mirror drivers etc.
> best
> Roy.
> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>
>
>> I thought of that, and think I will send Tim links to ReaAccess and
>> demos of Jaws and Window-Eyes.
>> I once had a program author who took a real interest in making his
>> program screenreader friendly, and actually checked out changes he
>> made with demo screenreaders, so he could see for himself how changes
>> impacted screenreaders.
>> We may not run into them every day, but there are some real kind and
>> considerate human beings out there.
>>
>> On 9/29/2011 2:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>> Have you pointed him to the actual dll?
>>> Maybe he would find reaaccess initially interesting for more than just
>>> us blindies, as he seemed to imply in his message
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>>
>>>
>>>> Okay, list members, we have Tim Payne of Still Water Studios onboard
>>>> with the possibility of extending ReaAccess into STS code, which is
>>>> open source.
>>>> What that means is that if things do not go well for ReaAccess from
>>>> Ivan's group, we can get into programming ReaAccess to suit our needs.
>>>> Let's take a wait and see attitude at this point, since we may be
>>>> worrying for nothing and Ivan will come through yet with a great new
>>>> version of ReaAccess.
>>>> Even so, Jinseng has already used SWS code to correct problems in the
>>>> present version of ReaAccess, so apparently we could do both, use
>>>> ReaAccess as developed by Ivan, plus tweak it with SWS code.
>>>> I'm definitely not a programmer, so which of us is volunteering to be
>>>> RWP's SWS programmer in Chief?
>>>> Below is Tim's wonderfully kind response to my inquiry:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/29/2011 10:57 AM, Tim Payne wrote:
>>>>> Hi Indigo,
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I will do anything I can to help your community. Please
>>>>> pass my contact info on to your group.
>>>>>
>>>>> One possibility is the option of integrating ReaAccess into the SWS
>>>>> extension. The SWS project is open source and I welcome any and all
>>>>> contributions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Indigo<33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>> I'm one among over 50 blind musicians now using Reaper, with the
>>>>>> help of a
>>>>>> sort of control panel called ReaAccess.
>>>>>> Unfortunately for our communicating with the author of ReaAccess,
>>>>>> he's a
>>>>>> Russian speaker with no English, and it's become uncertain whether
>>>>>> he will
>>>>>> do more updates for ReaAccess, which is still buggy and incomplete.
>>>>>> One of the blind Reaper users has used your SWS script to correct
>>>>>> a few
>>>>>> things that didn't work in ReaAccess.
>>>>>> I'm no programmer myself, but I love Reaper's simplicity and
>>>>>> friendliness,
>>>>>> and I would hate to see access by blind musicians to Reaper bog down
>>>>>> at this
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>> With Reaper, ReaAccess, and any old computer it's now possible for
>>>>>> the first
>>>>>> time for a very poor musician anywhere in the world to produce
>>>>>> music, and
>>>>>> I'd like it, if possible, to stay affordible and to work well.
>>>>>> If the Russian programmer can't do more to bring ReaAccess up to
>>>>>> date with
>>>>>> Reaper 4, do you think you could help with improving ReaAccess with
>>>>>> your SWS
>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>> If we can find a programmer in our user's group to do the actual
>>>>>> programming, do you think you could maybe provide some advice when
>>>>>> he's
>>>>>> stuck?
>>>>>> We'd appreciate help on any level at all,
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Indigo
>>>>>>
>>>>
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