[RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)

Thu Sep 29 05:30:10 EDT 2011

Well, you know, Jim, that folks have no way to know whether we're 
serious or amusing when they read a text message, so we need to be 
respectful and careful of anything that might be taken wrong.

On 9/28/2011 10:06 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Yeah? Really? ya know, stereotypes are amusing, if done without hatred,
> which mine certainly are. I happen to like Russians.
> Just because such images exist, and are not without their regrettable
> basis in history, doesn't mean they apply to all members of the group.
> Smart people have the good sense to recognize that without getting their
> politically correct sensabilities in an uproar.
> I stand by my irreverent humor. You can knock me off the list for being
> like that, but I would fight to the death to defend your right not to
> appreciate it, and to say so publicly. Carry on. But, I'm still grinning
> about that one.
>
> Now, I am officially off this subject.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>
>
>> I feel that we should be respectful of Ivan and show a little
>> gratitude for what he's done already, plus have a little patience.
>> The Russians are damned smart programmers, and I'm sure they don't
>> appreciate having the stereotype that they all drink stuck onto them.
>> Maybe it's not such a good idea to jump to conclusions that no new
>> update to ReaAccess will ever come, it just needs time because of the
>> many changes that came in Reaper 4.
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/2011 9:00 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> You would think that the API itself would be published. How did Ivan and
>>> friends learn of it?
>>> Personally, I am not skilled in the art.
>>> But, it would appear that, if that project is going to be successful,
>>> the one of providing access to Reaper, it needs to be brought a lot
>>> closer to home.
>>> But also, what you see here is an unfortunate shortcoming of volunteer
>>> efforts. An effort like this is pretty complicated, takes a lot of time
>>> and effort, and a lot more likely to be successful if the person writing
>>> the access pluggin also needs it personally.
>>> I wish I had the skill.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Too bad the decompilation of DLL's isn't practical, otherwise, the
>>>> questions of being able to talk to the reaper API, add functions to
>>>> said API, and talk to screan readers of all sourts could be answered.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"
>>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I guess old Ivan fell in the vodka tank.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe there are others around, hopefully closer to us, smart enough
>>>>> to develop a similar pluggin.
>>>>> One can always hope.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I relay this news to RWP with the proviso that nobody shoots the
>>>>>> messenger. Cyber handshake on that before reading any further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As most of you will be aware, a few months back Ivan issued a list of
>>>>>> features and fixes expected in ReaAccess 2.0 for a September release.
>>>>>> At this point, nobody English-speaking involved in ReaAccess's upkeep
>>>>>> has a clue what's going on. I've written to Ivan for info, but having
>>>>>> given him fair time to respond and received nothing, I thought I'd
>>>>>> fill RWP in on what's hot on the rumour mill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Word on the street is that the ReaAccess project has a new
>>>>>> Moscow-based owner or owners unknown. I've heard rumblings that the
>>>>>> plugin will be a paid product from 2.0 onward, but haven't seen
>>>>>> anything about a price. Similarly, haven't been able to track down
>>>>>> anything about a firm release date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's worth pointing out that this is exactly why ReaAccess
>>>>>> doesn't have a proper site, doesn't have anything beyond the absolute
>>>>>> bare bones of documentation, and has struggled to make a positive
>>>>>> impact. Beyond the first few versions when time spent translating and
>>>>>> bug swatting felt like time well spent, I haven't been able to
>>>>>> justify
>>>>>> pouring resources into the project (much as I love the DAW it enables
>>>>>> me to use. There have been plenty of offers of what would have been
>>>>>> valuable contributions flat out declined by the development end of
>>>>>> this opperation, and even more contributions promised that never
>>>>>> materialised due to a lack of faith in the way the project has been
>>>>>> run from day one. Sad to say it chaps, but it seems like those
>>>>>> reservations have been realised. If that applies to you, take comfort
>>>>>> in the fact that you guessed the correct basket to place your eggs
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now, that's all I've got in the way of an update. Russian
>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>> on here may wish to investigate www.reaaccess.ru, perhaps there's a
>>>>>> list like this one being maintained where you might be able to get
>>>>>> more info from our elusive developer (or his new boss). Should you
>>>>>> have any success, 75 plus RWP's here would appreciate the heads up.
>>>>>> This list will still be actively moderated and the latest build of
>>>>>> ReaAccess that I have will remain available, until the man says
>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember what we shook on a couple of minutes ago...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
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