[RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)

Wed Sep 28 22:06:22 EDT 2011

Yeah?  Really?  ya know, stereotypes are amusing, if done without hatred, 
which mine certainly are.  I happen to like Russians.
Just because such images exist, and are not without their regrettable basis 
in history, doesn't mean they apply to all members of the group.  Smart 
people have the good sense to recognize that without getting their 
politically correct sensabilities in an uproar.
I stand by my irreverent humor.  You can knock me off the list for being 
like that, but I would fight to the death to defend your right not to 
appreciate it, and to say so publicly.  Carry on.  But, I'm still grinning 
about that one.

Now, I am officially off this subject.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)

>I feel that we should be respectful of Ivan and show a little gratitude for 
>what he's done already, plus have a little patience.
> The Russians are damned smart programmers, and I'm sure they don't 
> appreciate having the stereotype that they all drink stuck onto them.
> Maybe it's not such a good idea to jump to conclusions that no new update 
> to ReaAccess will ever come, it just needs time because of the many 
> changes that came in Reaper 4.
>
>
> On 9/27/2011 9:00 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>> You would think that the API itself would be published. How did Ivan and
>> friends learn of it?
>> Personally, I am not skilled in the art.
>> But, it would appear that, if that project is going to be successful,
>> the one of providing access to Reaper, it needs to be brought a lot
>> closer to home.
>> But also, what you see here is an unfortunate shortcoming of volunteer
>> efforts. An effort like this is pretty complicated, takes a lot of time
>> and effort, and a lot more likely to be successful if the person writing
>> the access pluggin also needs it personally.
>> I wish I had the skill.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>
>>
>>> Too bad the decompilation of DLL's isn't practical, otherwise, the
>>> questions of being able to talk to the reaper API, add functions to
>>> said API, and talk to screan readers of all sourts could be answered.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"
>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess old Ivan fell in the vodka tank.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe there are others around, hopefully closer to us, smart enough
>>>> to develop a similar pluggin.
>>>> One can always hope.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>> Subject: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I relay this news to RWP with the proviso that nobody shoots the
>>>>> messenger. Cyber handshake on that before reading any further.
>>>>>
>>>>> As most of you will be aware, a few months back Ivan issued a list of
>>>>> features and fixes expected in ReaAccess 2.0 for a September release.
>>>>> At this point, nobody English-speaking involved in ReaAccess's upkeep
>>>>> has a clue what's going on. I've written to Ivan for info, but having
>>>>> given him fair time to respond and received nothing, I thought I'd
>>>>> fill RWP in on what's hot on the rumour mill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Word on the street is that the ReaAccess project has a new
>>>>> Moscow-based owner or owners unknown. I've heard rumblings that the
>>>>> plugin will be a paid product from 2.0 onward, but haven't seen
>>>>> anything about a price. Similarly, haven't been able to track down
>>>>> anything about a firm release date.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's worth pointing out that this is exactly why ReaAccess
>>>>> doesn't have a proper site, doesn't have anything beyond the absolute
>>>>> bare bones of documentation, and has struggled to make a positive
>>>>> impact. Beyond the first few versions when time spent translating and
>>>>> bug swatting felt like time well spent, I haven't been able to justify
>>>>> pouring resources into the project (much as I love the DAW it enables
>>>>> me to use. There have been plenty of offers of what would have been
>>>>> valuable contributions flat out declined by the development end of
>>>>> this opperation, and even more contributions promised that never
>>>>> materialised due to a lack of faith in the way the project has been
>>>>> run from day one. Sad to say it chaps, but it seems like those
>>>>> reservations have been realised. If that applies to you, take comfort
>>>>> in the fact that you guessed the correct basket to place your eggs in.
>>>>>
>>>>> For now, that's all I've got in the way of an update. Russian speakers
>>>>> on here may wish to investigate www.reaaccess.ru, perhaps there's a
>>>>> list like this one being maintained where you might be able to get
>>>>> more info from our elusive developer (or his new boss). Should you
>>>>> have any success, 75 plus RWP's here would appreciate the heads up.
>>>>> This list will still be actively moderated and the latest build of
>>>>> ReaAccess that I have will remain available, until the man says
>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember what we shook on a couple of minutes ago...
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
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>>>>
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