[RWP] accessible tutorial

Derek Lane derek at pdaudio.net
Wed Sep 28 09:09:40 EDT 2011 

Absolutely.
However, given the way things stand, it'd be an effort not worth the time at 
present.
After all, the new features in reaper 4 in combination with the changes 
promissed months ago would result in a document/audio tutorial which would 
be out of date by the time it was released.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Doc Wright" <godfearer at wrighthere.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: [RWP] accessible tutorial


> Have any of you Reaper veterans consider creating a users guide for the 
> novices out here?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>
>
>> Yes, as would I.  As many here know, I absolutely hate reaper. I use it 
>> almost every day, but I hate it. I want to keep on hating it properly, 
>> and if I can't access new features, then I'll hate that, too. I love to 
>> hate Reaper, and I appreciate the ability to access all the stuff I don't 
>> like about it.
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, I would chip in too.
>>> People often object to having to pay extra for the access that the 
>>> sighted public takes for granted, and gets for free.
>>> I do understand that, it seems unfair.  It is unfair.  But, 
>>> unfortunately, access for us takes extra work. And, who is to do it? 
>>> One thing I can say for sure, the person who does will have a lot of 
>>> work to do, and will get no end of complaints and requests from us. So, 
>>> the poor guy will deserve his money.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Brown" 
>>> <cursebuster at samobile.net>
>>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am not skilled in that area of writing programs either,...I thought 
>>>> Reaper is more of an open source software?,...I mean, It appears that 
>>>> people make lots of plugins for reaper, don't they?...
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how much it would cost to pay someone to write an access 
>>>> program for reaper?...
>>>>
>>>> I would gladly pay for a "closer to home" accessible program for 
>>>> reaper,...I think it would be well worth it!...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> You would think that the API  itself would be published.  How did Ivan 
>>>>> and
>>>>> friends learn of it?
>>>>> Personally, I am not skilled in the art.
>>>>> But, it would appear that, if that project is going to be successful, 
>>>>> the
>>>>> one of providing access to Reaper, it needs to be brought a lot closer 
>>>>> to
>>>>> home.
>>>>> But also, what you see here is an unfortunate shortcoming of volunteer
>>>>> efforts.  An effort like this is pretty complicated, takes a lot of 
>>>>> time and
>>>>> effort, and a lot more likely to be successful if the person writing 
>>>>> the
>>>>> access pluggin also needs it personally.
>>>>> I wish I had the skill.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Too bad the decompilation of DLL's isn't practical, otherwise, the
>>>>>> questions of being able to talk to the reaper API, add functions to 
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> API, and talk to screan readers  of all sourts could be answered.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jim Snowbarger" <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess old Ivan fell in the vodka tank.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe there are others around, hopefully closer to us,  smart enough 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> develop a similar pluggin.
>>>>>>> One can always hope.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I relay this news to RWP with the proviso that nobody shoots the
>>>>>>>> messenger. Cyber handshake on that before reading any further.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> As most of you will be aware, a few months back Ivan issued a list 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> features and fixes expected in ReaAccess 2.0 for a September 
>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>> At this point, nobody English-speaking involved in ReaAccess's 
>>>>>>>> upkeep
>>>>>>>> has a clue what's going on. I've written to Ivan for info, but 
>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>> given him fair time to respond and received nothing, I thought I'd
>>>>>>>> fill RWP in on what's hot on the rumour mill.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Word on the street is that the ReaAccess project has a new
>>>>>>>> Moscow-based owner or owners unknown. I've heard rumblings that the
>>>>>>>> plugin will be a paid product from 2.0 onward, but haven't seen
>>>>>>>> anything about a price. Similarly, haven't been able to track down
>>>>>>>> anything about a firm release date.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it's worth pointing out that this is exactly why ReaAccess
>>>>>>>> doesn't have a proper site, doesn't have anything beyond the 
>>>>>>>> absolute
>>>>>>>> bare bones of documentation, and has struggled to make a positive
>>>>>>>> impact. Beyond the first few versions when time spent translating 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> bug swatting felt like time well spent, I haven't been able to 
>>>>>>>> justify
>>>>>>>> pouring resources into the project (much as I love the DAW it 
>>>>>>>> enables
>>>>>>>> me to use. There have been plenty of offers of what would have been
>>>>>>>> valuable contributions flat out declined by the development end of
>>>>>>>> this opperation, and even more contributions promised that never
>>>>>>>> materialised due to a lack of faith in the way the project has been
>>>>>>>> run from day one. Sad to say it chaps, but it seems like those
>>>>>>>> reservations have been realised. If that applies to you, take 
>>>>>>>> comfort
>>>>>>>> in the fact that you guessed the correct basket to place your eggs 
>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> For now, that's all I've got in the way of an update. Russian 
>>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>>> on here may wish to investigate www.reaaccess.ru, perhaps there's a
>>>>>>>> list like this one being maintained where you might be able to get
>>>>>>>> more info from our elusive developer (or his new boss). Should you
>>>>>>>> have any success, 75 plus RWP's here would appreciate the heads up.
>>>>>>>> This list will still be actively moderated and the latest build of
>>>>>>>> ReaAccess that I have will remain available, until the man says
>>>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember what we shook on a couple of minutes ago...
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>
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