[RWP] accessible tutorial

Robert Doc Wright godfearer at wrighthere.net
Wed Sep 28 08:10:30 EDT 2011 

Have any of you Reaper veterans consider creating a users guide for the 
novices out here?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)


> Yes, as would I.  As many here know, I absolutely hate reaper. I use it 
> almost every day, but I hate it. I want to keep on hating it properly, and 
> if I can't access new features, then I'll hate that, too. I love to hate 
> Reaper, and I appreciate the ability to access all the stuff I don't like 
> about it.
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>
>> Yep, I would chip in too.
>> People often object to having to pay extra for the access that the 
>> sighted public takes for granted, and gets for free.
>> I do understand that, it seems unfair.  It is unfair.  But, 
>> unfortunately, access for us takes extra work. And, who is to do it?  One 
>> thing I can say for sure, the person who does will have a lot of work to 
>> do, and will get no end of complaints and requests from us. So, the poor 
>> guy will deserve his money.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Brown" 
>> <cursebuster at samobile.net>
>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>
>>
>>> I am not skilled in that area of writing programs either,...I thought 
>>> Reaper is more of an open source software?,...I mean, It appears that 
>>> people make lots of plugins for reaper, don't they?...
>>>
>>> I wonder how much it would cost to pay someone to write an access 
>>> program for reaper?...
>>>
>>> I would gladly pay for a "closer to home" accessible program for 
>>> reaper,...I think it would be well worth it!...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> You would think that the API  itself would be published.  How did Ivan 
>>>> and
>>>> friends learn of it?
>>>> Personally, I am not skilled in the art.
>>>> But, it would appear that, if that project is going to be successful, 
>>>> the
>>>> one of providing access to Reaper, it needs to be brought a lot closer 
>>>> to
>>>> home.
>>>> But also, what you see here is an unfortunate shortcoming of volunteer
>>>> efforts.  An effort like this is pretty complicated, takes a lot of 
>>>> time and
>>>> effort, and a lot more likely to be successful if the person writing 
>>>> the
>>>> access pluggin also needs it personally.
>>>> I wish I had the skill.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Too bad the decompilation of DLL's isn't practical, otherwise, the
>>>>> questions of being able to talk to the reaper API, add functions to 
>>>>> said
>>>>> API, and talk to screan readers  of all sourts could be answered.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Snowbarger" <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I guess old Ivan fell in the vodka tank.
>>>
>>>>>> Maybe there are others around, hopefully closer to us,  smart enough 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> develop a similar pluggin.
>>>>>> One can always hope.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] ReaAccess development update (of sorts)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>>>>>> I relay this news to RWP with the proviso that nobody shoots the
>>>>>>> messenger. Cyber handshake on that before reading any further.
>>>
>>>>>>> As most of you will be aware, a few months back Ivan issued a list 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> features and fixes expected in ReaAccess 2.0 for a September 
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>> At this point, nobody English-speaking involved in ReaAccess's 
>>>>>>> upkeep
>>>>>>> has a clue what's going on. I've written to Ivan for info, but 
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> given him fair time to respond and received nothing, I thought I'd
>>>>>>> fill RWP in on what's hot on the rumour mill.
>>>
>>>>>>> Word on the street is that the ReaAccess project has a new
>>>>>>> Moscow-based owner or owners unknown. I've heard rumblings that the
>>>>>>> plugin will be a paid product from 2.0 onward, but haven't seen
>>>>>>> anything about a price. Similarly, haven't been able to track down
>>>>>>> anything about a firm release date.
>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's worth pointing out that this is exactly why ReaAccess
>>>>>>> doesn't have a proper site, doesn't have anything beyond the 
>>>>>>> absolute
>>>>>>> bare bones of documentation, and has struggled to make a positive
>>>>>>> impact. Beyond the first few versions when time spent translating 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> bug swatting felt like time well spent, I haven't been able to 
>>>>>>> justify
>>>>>>> pouring resources into the project (much as I love the DAW it 
>>>>>>> enables
>>>>>>> me to use. There have been plenty of offers of what would have been
>>>>>>> valuable contributions flat out declined by the development end of
>>>>>>> this opperation, and even more contributions promised that never
>>>>>>> materialised due to a lack of faith in the way the project has been
>>>>>>> run from day one. Sad to say it chaps, but it seems like those
>>>>>>> reservations have been realised. If that applies to you, take 
>>>>>>> comfort
>>>>>>> in the fact that you guessed the correct basket to place your eggs 
>>>>>>> in.
>>>
>>>>>>> For now, that's all I've got in the way of an update. Russian 
>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>> on here may wish to investigate www.reaaccess.ru, perhaps there's a
>>>>>>> list like this one being maintained where you might be able to get
>>>>>>> more info from our elusive developer (or his new boss). Should you
>>>>>>> have any success, 75 plus RWP's here would appreciate the heads up.
>>>>>>> This list will still be actively moderated and the latest build of
>>>>>>> ReaAccess that I have will remain available, until the man says
>>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>
>>>>>>> Remember what we shook on a couple of minutes ago...
>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>
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