[RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess

Sat Oct 1 12:50:26 EDT 2011

indeed; will contact them.
thanks a bunch
Roy.
www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Brown" <cursebuster at samobile.net>
To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess


> Also,...don't forget that Mike Calvo, and the System Access crew are also 
> interested in this project,...They already have some programmers in their 
> group...
> You might want to let them know what you intend to do,...It may be that 
> they can help with this project:
>
> support at serotek.com
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>
> Give Mike a poke and see what he says,...You never know until you ask...
>
>
> Ask, and you shall receive,...one way, or the other...
>
>
>
> Original message:
>> thanks very much; highly appreciate it.
>> Visual Studio professional costs around $800; am looking for something
>> cheaper which will still suffice for this project.
>> will keep you posted.
>> all the very best
>> Roy.
>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brett" <brettsta21 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 12:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
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>
>>>  Hi Roy,
>
>>> I don't know any programming so couldn't help with that. But I would
>>> definitely be willing to throw some money your way if you needed to
>>> purchase something like visual studio. perhaps if a few others wanted to
>>> jump on board as well, we could make it happen?
>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brett.
>
>
>>> On 9/30/2011 11:26 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>> I'd gladly do the programming part.
>>>> am arranging some c++/vb developement tools with which it'll be 
>>>> possible
>>>> to compile/debug/build projects etc.
>>>> cheers
>>>> Roy.
>>>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>
>
>>>>> I guess if I felt comfortable myself in NVDA  and could get around
>>>>> Reaper with it I would have thought of it, but you're right, NVDA 
>>>>> would
>>>>> do fine; and be simpler to get, and wouldn't time out after 30 
>>>>> minutes.
>>>>> I don't think we can expect Tim of SWS to be our programmer, though,
>>>>> just an adviser.
>>>>> We must have someone with those skills among us; who would know what's
>>>>> needed from our point of view
>>>>> I wouldn't be the right one, since my problem is that I'm not
>>>>> discontented with Reaper and ReaAccess as they are.
>>>>> I work very simply in Reaper, I know that when I arrow up or down to a
>>>>> track it's selected, and I would resent the program speaking a 
>>>>> reminder;
>>>>> like, "You have selected track 1."
>>>>> I'm always trying to disable verbosity in a program, that's why I 
>>>>> can't
>>>>> work in NVDA; it's constantly babbling about what row and column I'm 
>>>>> on,
>>>>> and I don't care, I just wanta get on with my work in peace.
>>>>> I'm curious, though, to learn how much work it would be to make minor
>>>>> tweaks to ReaAccess with SWS code.
>
>>>>> aOn 9/30/2011 6:51 AM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>> even easier , point him to NVDA; no need for complex installations ,
>>>>>> mirror drivers etc.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:07 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
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>
>>>>>>> I thought of that, and think I will send Tim links to ReaAccess and
>>>>>>> demos of Jaws and Window-Eyes.
>>>>>>> I once had a program author who took a real interest in making his
>>>>>>> program screenreader friendly, and actually checked out changes he
>>>>>>> made with demo screenreaders, so he could see for himself how 
>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>> impacted screenreaders.
>>>>>>> We may not run into them every day, but there are some real kind and
>>>>>>> considerate human beings out there.
>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/2011 2:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>>>>>>> Have you pointed him to the actual dll?
>>>>>>>> Maybe he would find reaaccess initially interesting for more than
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> us blindies, as he seemed to imply in his message
>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>
>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, list members, we have Tim Payne of Still Water Studios 
>>>>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>>>>> with the possibility of extending ReaAccess into STS code, which 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> open source.
>>>>>>>>> What that means is that if things do not go well for ReaAccess 
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Ivan's group, we can get into programming ReaAccess to suit our
>>>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>>>>> Let's take a wait and see attitude at this point, since we may be
>>>>>>>>> worrying for nothing and Ivan will come through yet with a great 
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> version of ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>>> Even so, Jinseng has already used SWS code to correct problems in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> present version of ReaAccess, so apparently we could do both, use
>>>>>>>>> ReaAccess as developed by Ivan, plus tweak it with SWS code.
>>>>>>>>> I'm definitely not a programmer, so which of us is volunteering to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> RWP's SWS programmer in Chief?
>>>>>>>>> Below is Tim's wonderfully kind response to my inquiry:
>
>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/29/2011 10:57 AM, Tim Payne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Indigo,
>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I will do anything I can to help your community. 
>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>> pass my contact info on to your group.
>
>>>>>>>>>> One possibility is the option of integrating ReaAccess into the 
>>>>>>>>>> SWS
>>>>>>>>>> extension. The SWS project is open source and I welcome any and 
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> contributions.
>
>>>>>>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Indigo<33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm one among over 50 blind musicians now using Reaper, with the
>>>>>>>>>>> help of a
>>>>>>>>>>> sort of control panel called ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately for our communicating with the author of 
>>>>>>>>>>> ReaAccess,
>>>>>>>>>>> he's a
>>>>>>>>>>> Russian speaker with no English, and it's become uncertain 
>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>> he will
>>>>>>>>>>> do more updates for ReaAccess, which is still buggy and
>>>>>>>>>>> incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the blind Reaper users has used your SWS script to 
>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>>>> things that didn't work in ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm no programmer myself, but I love Reaper's simplicity and
>>>>>>>>>>> friendliness,
>>>>>>>>>>> and I would hate to see access by blind musicians to Reaper bog
>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>> at this
>>>>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>>>> With Reaper, ReaAccess, and any old computer it's now possible 
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>>>> time for a very poor musician anywhere in the world to produce
>>>>>>>>>>> music, and
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like it, if possible, to stay affordible and to work well.
>>>>>>>>>>> If the Russian programmer can't do more to bring ReaAccess up to
>>>>>>>>>>> date with
>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper 4, do you think you could help with improving ReaAccess
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> your SWS
>>>>>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>>>>>> If we can find a programmer in our user's group to do the actual
>>>>>>>>>>> programming, do you think you could maybe provide some advice 
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>>>> stuck?
>>>>>>>>>>> We'd appreciate help on any level at all,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Indigo
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