[RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess

Sat Oct 1 09:51:22 EDT 2011

Me too.
Indigo

On 10/1/2011 5:48 AM, Brett wrote:
> Hi Roy,
>
> I don't know any programming so couldn't help with that. But I would
> definitely be willing to throw some money your way if you needed to
> purchase something like visual studio. perhaps if a few others wanted to
> jump on board as well, we could make it happen?
>
> Cheers,
> Brett.
>
>
> On 9/30/2011 11:26 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>> I'd gladly do the programming part.
>> am arranging some c++/vb developement tools with which it'll be
>> possible to compile/debug/build projects etc.
>> cheers
>> Roy.
>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>
>>
>>> I guess if I felt comfortable myself in NVDA and could get around
>>> Reaper with it I would have thought of it, but you're right, NVDA
>>> would do fine; and be simpler to get, and wouldn't time out after 30
>>> minutes.
>>> I don't think we can expect Tim of SWS to be our programmer, though,
>>> just an adviser.
>>> We must have someone with those skills among us; who would know
>>> what's needed from our point of view
>>> I wouldn't be the right one, since my problem is that I'm not
>>> discontented with Reaper and ReaAccess as they are.
>>> I work very simply in Reaper, I know that when I arrow up or down to
>>> a track it's selected, and I would resent the program speaking a
>>> reminder; like, "You have selected track 1."
>>> I'm always trying to disable verbosity in a program, that's why I
>>> can't work in NVDA; it's constantly babbling about what row and
>>> column I'm on, and I don't care, I just wanta get on with my work in
>>> peace.
>>> I'm curious, though, to learn how much work it would be to make minor
>>> tweaks to ReaAccess with SWS code.
>>>
>>> aOn 9/30/2011 6:51 AM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>> even easier , point him to NVDA; no need for complex installations ,
>>>> mirror drivers etc.
>>>> best
>>>> Roy.
>>>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I thought of that, and think I will send Tim links to ReaAccess and
>>>>> demos of Jaws and Window-Eyes.
>>>>> I once had a program author who took a real interest in making his
>>>>> program screenreader friendly, and actually checked out changes he
>>>>> made with demo screenreaders, so he could see for himself how changes
>>>>> impacted screenreaders.
>>>>> We may not run into them every day, but there are some real kind and
>>>>> considerate human beings out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/2011 2:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>>>>> Have you pointed him to the actual dll?
>>>>>> Maybe he would find reaaccess initially interesting for more than
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> us blindies, as he seemed to imply in his message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, list members, we have Tim Payne of Still Water Studios onboard
>>>>>>> with the possibility of extending ReaAccess into STS code, which is
>>>>>>> open source.
>>>>>>> What that means is that if things do not go well for ReaAccess from
>>>>>>> Ivan's group, we can get into programming ReaAccess to suit our
>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>>> Let's take a wait and see attitude at this point, since we may be
>>>>>>> worrying for nothing and Ivan will come through yet with a great new
>>>>>>> version of ReaAccess.
>>>>>>> Even so, Jinseng has already used SWS code to correct problems in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> present version of ReaAccess, so apparently we could do both, use
>>>>>>> ReaAccess as developed by Ivan, plus tweak it with SWS code.
>>>>>>> I'm definitely not a programmer, so which of us is volunteering
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> RWP's SWS programmer in Chief?
>>>>>>> Below is Tim's wonderfully kind response to my inquiry:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/2011 10:57 AM, Tim Payne wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Indigo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, I will do anything I can to help your community. Please
>>>>>>>> pass my contact info on to your group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One possibility is the option of integrating ReaAccess into the SWS
>>>>>>>> extension. The SWS project is open source and I welcome any and all
>>>>>>>> contributions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Indigo<33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>>> I'm one among over 50 blind musicians now using Reaper, with the
>>>>>>>>> help of a
>>>>>>>>> sort of control panel called ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately for our communicating with the author of ReaAccess,
>>>>>>>>> he's a
>>>>>>>>> Russian speaker with no English, and it's become uncertain whether
>>>>>>>>> he will
>>>>>>>>> do more updates for ReaAccess, which is still buggy and
>>>>>>>>> incomplete.
>>>>>>>>> One of the blind Reaper users has used your SWS script to correct
>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>> things that didn't work in ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>>> I'm no programmer myself, but I love Reaper's simplicity and
>>>>>>>>> friendliness,
>>>>>>>>> and I would hate to see access by blind musicians to Reaper bog
>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>> at this
>>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>> With Reaper, ReaAccess, and any old computer it's now possible for
>>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>> time for a very poor musician anywhere in the world to produce
>>>>>>>>> music, and
>>>>>>>>> I'd like it, if possible, to stay affordible and to work well.
>>>>>>>>> If the Russian programmer can't do more to bring ReaAccess up to
>>>>>>>>> date with
>>>>>>>>> Reaper 4, do you think you could help with improving ReaAccess
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> your SWS
>>>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>>>> If we can find a programmer in our user's group to do the actual
>>>>>>>>> programming, do you think you could maybe provide some advice when
>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>> stuck?
>>>>>>>>> We'd appreciate help on any level at all,
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Indigo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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