[RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess

Sat Oct 1 05:48:56 EDT 2011

  Hi Roy,

I don't know any programming so couldn't help with that. But I would 
definitely be willing to throw some money your way if you needed to 
purchase something like visual studio. perhaps if a few others wanted to 
jump on board as well, we could make it happen?

Cheers,
Brett.

On 9/30/2011 11:26 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
> I'd gladly do the programming part.
> am arranging some c++/vb developement tools with which it'll be 
> possible to compile/debug/build projects etc.
> cheers
> Roy.
> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>
>
>> I guess if I felt comfortable myself in NVDA  and could get around 
>> Reaper with it I would have thought of it, but you're right, NVDA 
>> would do fine; and be simpler to get, and wouldn't time out after 30 
>> minutes.
>> I don't think we can expect Tim of SWS to be our programmer, though, 
>> just an adviser.
>> We must have someone with those skills among us; who would know 
>> what's needed from our point of view
>> I wouldn't be the right one, since my problem is that I'm not 
>> discontented with Reaper and ReaAccess as they are.
>> I work very simply in Reaper, I know that when I arrow up or down to 
>> a track it's selected, and I would resent the program speaking a 
>> reminder; like, "You have selected track 1."
>> I'm always trying to disable verbosity in a program, that's why I 
>> can't work in NVDA; it's constantly babbling about what row and 
>> column I'm on, and I don't care, I just wanta get on with my work in 
>> peace.
>> I'm curious, though, to learn how much work it would be to make minor 
>> tweaks to ReaAccess with SWS code.
>>
>> aOn 9/30/2011 6:51 AM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>> even easier , point him to NVDA; no need for complex installations ,
>>> mirror drivers etc.
>>> best
>>> Roy.
>>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>>
>>>
>>>> I thought of that, and think I will send Tim links to ReaAccess and
>>>> demos of Jaws and Window-Eyes.
>>>> I once had a program author who took a real interest in making his
>>>> program screenreader friendly, and actually checked out changes he
>>>> made with demo screenreaders, so he could see for himself how changes
>>>> impacted screenreaders.
>>>> We may not run into them every day, but there are some real kind and
>>>> considerate human beings out there.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/29/2011 2:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>>>> Have you pointed him to the actual dll?
>>>>> Maybe he would find reaaccess initially interesting for more than 
>>>>> just
>>>>> us blindies, as he seemed to imply in his message
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] SWS for Augmenting ReaAccess
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, list members, we have Tim Payne of Still Water Studios onboard
>>>>>> with the possibility of extending ReaAccess into STS code, which is
>>>>>> open source.
>>>>>> What that means is that if things do not go well for ReaAccess from
>>>>>> Ivan's group, we can get into programming ReaAccess to suit our 
>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>> Let's take a wait and see attitude at this point, since we may be
>>>>>> worrying for nothing and Ivan will come through yet with a great new
>>>>>> version of ReaAccess.
>>>>>> Even so, Jinseng has already used SWS code to correct problems in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> present version of ReaAccess, so apparently we could do both, use
>>>>>> ReaAccess as developed by Ivan, plus tweak it with SWS code.
>>>>>> I'm definitely not a programmer, so which of us is volunteering 
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> RWP's SWS programmer in Chief?
>>>>>> Below is Tim's wonderfully kind response to my inquiry:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/29/2011 10:57 AM, Tim Payne wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Indigo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, I will do anything I can to help your community. Please
>>>>>>> pass my contact info on to your group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One possibility is the option of integrating ReaAccess into the SWS
>>>>>>> extension. The SWS project is open source and I welcome any and all
>>>>>>> contributions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Indigo<33indigo at charter.net> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>> I'm one among over 50 blind musicians now using Reaper, with the
>>>>>>>> help of a
>>>>>>>> sort of control panel called ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately for our communicating with the author of ReaAccess,
>>>>>>>> he's a
>>>>>>>> Russian speaker with no English, and it's become uncertain whether
>>>>>>>> he will
>>>>>>>> do more updates for ReaAccess, which is still buggy and 
>>>>>>>> incomplete.
>>>>>>>> One of the blind Reaper users has used your SWS script to correct
>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>> things that didn't work in ReaAccess.
>>>>>>>> I'm no programmer myself, but I love Reaper's simplicity and
>>>>>>>> friendliness,
>>>>>>>> and I would hate to see access by blind musicians to Reaper bog 
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> at this
>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>> With Reaper, ReaAccess, and any old computer it's now possible for
>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>> time for a very poor musician anywhere in the world to produce
>>>>>>>> music, and
>>>>>>>> I'd like it, if possible, to stay affordible and to work well.
>>>>>>>> If the Russian programmer can't do more to bring ReaAccess up to
>>>>>>>> date with
>>>>>>>> Reaper 4, do you think you could help with improving ReaAccess 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> your SWS
>>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>>> If we can find a programmer in our user's group to do the actual
>>>>>>>> programming, do you think you could maybe provide some advice when
>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>> stuck?
>>>>>>>> We'd appreciate help on any level at all,
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Indigo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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