[RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself

[Rainee]

Actually, I think I found the culprit. Will it work on the voice yet, 
don't know. Laying a keyboard track down at this point.

On 11/27/2011 12:45 AM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Hi Rainy, this is Snowy,
>
> In the setup like it sounds like you are using, there are several 
> level controls, each of which can affect the microphone signal before 
> it finds its way onto an actual track.
>
> First in the chain, usually, there is a trim control that affects the 
> microphone input on the mixer,
> then there is the mixing level control for the microphone channel 
> itself, a main mixer  output level control, the input level controls 
> on your sound card.  Etc.
> In between each of the controls are amplifier stages where clipping 
> can occur.
>
> In your case, I would proceed backward through the chain until after 
> the first control that is exceedingly low.  Remember, we are going 
> backward, so after, really means before.
> Some stage prior to that control is probably guilty.
> I suggest that trim control first.  People like to keep that hot, 
> because it leads to a better signal to noise ratio.
> But, when a person sings as loudly as you do, input clipping on a 
> microphone preAmp stage is pretty likely.
>
> Once you stop that clipping, you'll probably need to give one of your 
> -30db sliders a little releaf,  and bring it up to elevate the clean 
> signal back to a good level.
>
> HTH
>
> I wonder if Sunny is lerking on list, and has any better ideas. <grin>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainee" <sayhello at raineemusic.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself
>
>
>> LOL. I think I'm getting it. That makes me laugh, though.
>>
>> On 11/26/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> Time to tap on a brother-in-laws's shoulder... <grin>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainee" <sayhello at raineemusic.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself
>>>
>>>
>>>> The problem is, I have both the mixer's master volume  and the 
>>>> board down as far as I can get it and still hear. Thanks for any 
>>>> help you can offer. I feel like I'm still such a baby at this.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/26/2011 3:47 AM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>>> your input to the soundcard is way way too high if you have to 
>>>>> bring reaper down by 30DB and still get clipping.
>>>>> the clipping is likely happening before the soundcard, so no 
>>>>> matter how much you bring the volume down in reaper, the source is 
>>>>> clipping so you can't get rid of it unless you turn the source 
>>>>> input down IE the keyboard, or trim/attenuator on the mixer.
>>>>> The great thing about reaper, is it has massive head room to turn 
>>>>> things up, so record your source at a lower volume, then bring it 
>>>>> up...far better than trying to get rid of unwanted distortion or 
>>>>> clipping from the source.
>>>>> It's always easier to increase volume, than try to fix a clipping 
>>>>> issue once it's recorded.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainee" 
>>>>> <sayhello at raineemusic.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 5:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: [RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, this might be a totally elementary question here, but what is 
>>>>>> the average default volume level you usually use to avoid 
>>>>>> clipping? I'm using a mixer and a keyboard right now, and I have 
>>>>>> things at minus 30 DB, and it's still clipping a bit.
>>>>>>
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