[RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself

[Jim Snowbarger]

Hi Rainy, this is Snowy,

In the setup like it sounds like you are using, there are several level 
controls, each of which can affect the microphone signal before it finds its 
way onto an actual track.

First in the chain, usually, there is a trim control that affects the 
microphone input on the mixer,
then there is the mixing level control for the microphone channel itself, a 
main mixer  output level control, the input level controls on your sound 
card.  Etc.
In between each of the controls are amplifier stages where clipping can 
occur.

In your case, I would proceed backward through the chain until after the 
first control that is exceedingly low.  Remember, we are going backward, so 
after, really means before.
Some stage prior to that control is probably guilty.
I suggest that trim control first.  People like to keep that hot, because it 
leads to a better signal to noise ratio.
But, when a person sings as loudly as you do, input clipping on a microphone 
preAmp stage is pretty likely.

Once you stop that clipping, you'll probably need to give one of your -30db 
sliders a little releaf,  and bring it up to elevate the clean signal back 
to a good level.

HTH

I wonder if Sunny is lerking on list, and has any better ideas.  <grin>



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rainee" <sayhello at raineemusic.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself


> LOL. I think I'm getting it. That makes me laugh, though.
>
> On 11/26/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>> Time to tap on a brother-in-laws's shoulder... <grin>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainee" <sayhello at raineemusic.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself
>>
>>
>>> The problem is, I have both the mixer's master volume  and the board 
>>> down as far as I can get it and still hear. Thanks for any help you can 
>>> offer. I feel like I'm still such a baby at this.
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2011 3:47 AM, colin McDonald wrote:
>>>> your input to the soundcard is way way too high if you have to bring 
>>>> reaper down by 30DB and still get clipping.
>>>> the clipping is likely happening before the soundcard, so no matter how 
>>>> much you bring the volume down in reaper, the source is clipping so you 
>>>> can't get rid of it unless you turn the source input down IE the 
>>>> keyboard, or trim/attenuator on the mixer.
>>>> The great thing about reaper, is it has massive head room to turn 
>>>> things up, so record your source at a lower volume, then bring it 
>>>> up...far better than trying to get rid of unwanted distortion or 
>>>> clipping from the source.
>>>> It's always easier to increase volume, than try to fix a clipping issue 
>>>> once it's recorded.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Colin
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainee" <sayhello at raineemusic.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 5:37 PM
>>>> Subject: [RWP] at the risk of incriminating myself
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> OK, this might be a totally elementary question here, but what is the 
>>>>> average default volume level you usually use to avoid clipping? I'm 
>>>>> using a mixer and a keyboard right now, and I have things at minus 30 
>>>>> DB, and it's still clipping a bit.
>>>>>
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