[RWP] Installing reaccess part 2

Tue Nov 22 09:52:59 EST 2011

Thanks, Chrissie.
I save any notes on key combinations and moves that work in Reaper, 
slowly assembling a quick guide to Reaper from a screenreader point of view.
Last night I installed NVDA on my Windows 7 64 music machine, and tried 
to navigate around Reaper 3.77 64, including ReaAccess, and it's 
possible, but I sure do miss the screen info I get from Winize at the 
num pad., plus I don't know how to navigate very well in NVDA.
Also, for some reason, probably a key map conflict with NVDA, I can't 
use the control plus insert above the six pack keys to insert a soft 
synth on a new track, but; I just drop the menus with F10, then arrow 
over to the insert menu and do it there.
I have Jaws 9, which I never learned to run; but I sure will now; 
especially with how stable folks tell me Jaws 13 is, and how about its 
new OCR feature built in, so you can find silent graphics and read what 
they are.
I'm going to look at the System Access demo today, so; with the chaos 
that came with the new Winize 7.5.2 upgrade, I'm definitely screenreader 
shopping.
Indigo L

On 11/21/2011 12:05 PM, Chrissie Cochrane wrote:
> Hi Indigo
>
> Okay I've just finished my first multi-track session with Reaper.
>
> I made it a little simple on myself by recording the backing track in Sound
> Forge then bringing that into Reaper on track 1 using the insert key.
>
> To do the first vocal, I made a new track, then brought the mouse down to 2
> and a little further where I found "in"  I right clicked on that and went
> down to stereo and checked left right, also checking the record item while I
> was in that track.
>
> I had to do the same for any subsequent tracks for the harmony vocal.  I
> then rendered that to a 2-track stereo master.  I can't say it's absolutely
> brilliant but not bad for a first attempt.
>
> Chrissie
>
>
> Managing Director
> The Global Voice
> http://theglobalvoice.info
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf
> Of Indigo
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Installing reaccess part 2
>
> Chrissie, I'm intrigued, what moves in reaper are required to see tracks?
> I'm trying to get together a quick guide to Reaper from a screenreader point
> of view, and I would appreciate any key combination moves you discover.
> Actually, if you have the energy and ambition, and it seems you do, to
> tackle Reaper barefoot, without ReaAccess; is the best method to really
> understand it.
> ReaAccess is like a little sheltered port in a storm, somewhat isolated from
> complex Reaper.
> While in ReaAccess, we don't encounter areas you are tackling.
> I'm just at the same decision point you are, with a new Windows 7 64 bit
> machine, where I can't run 64 bit Reaper with Winize, and I'm leaning toward
> installing a swappable hard drive tray in an empty drive bay at the
> computer's front.Once that tray is in place, I'll be able to pick up the 64
> bit Windows 7 hard drive and just plug it in, or take it out and plug the 32
> bit Windows XP hard drive in.
> Those trays aren't very expensive, and are no harder to install than an
> interior hard drive is.
> I personally don't like Windows 7 64 bit, because not only Winize doesn't
> behave itself perfectly, but my brand new Emu 1616M sound card works better
> on 32 bits, and so does Reason 6, which, along with Reaper, is an amazing
> creative tool..
> I will stay with what works, on XP; until the bugs get strained out of both
> Windows 7 64 and Window-Eyes 7x.
> Indigo L
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/21/2011 4:13 AM, Chrissie Cochrane wrote:
>> Well without Reaccess and judicious use of the mouse, I've been able
>> to find tracks now, and also fine I o stuff so perhaps I can use it after
> all.
>> There is however something really strange going on in that I went back
>> to a much earlier version and tried reaccess and it still said some
>> components were missing.  This must be a Windows 7 thing but
>> unfortunately of course it doesn't say which components are missing.
>>
>> Anyway, It's at least now useable.
>>
>> Chrissieup in th
>>
>>
>> Managing Director
>> The Global Voice
>> http://theglobalvoice.info
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On
>> Behalf Of Indigo
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:15 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Installing reaccess part 2
>>
>> You can run Reaper without ReaAccess, but it isn't going to be an easy
>> thing.
>> I looked at it without ReaAccess, and such essential features as iO
>> routing is very puzzling without ReaAccess, and kindergarten simple with
> ReaAccess.
>> I  couldn't even get any tracks to display without ReaAccess, while
>> with it there are all the tracks, just arrow up and down to select them.
>> You know, you don't need much of a computer to run Reaper on XP.
>> If you don't want to dual boot to XP for Reaper, I'd just buy or
>> borrow a used computer with XP on it, just to learn how easy ReaAccess
> makes Reaper.
>> It's okay, though, I believe in learning by doing, and I have heard of
>> blind musicians who used Reaper years before ReaAccess existed.
>> If GW Micro ever fixes Wineyes, you will be an expert on Reaper
>> without ReaAccess by then, and way ahead of us all. smile.
>> Indigo L
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/2011 4:01 PM, Chrissie Cochrane wrote:
>>> Okay, so I think my easiest thing to do is run the latest 64 bit
>>> without reaaccess.  It'll still do what I want in terms of
>>> multi-track recording without the fancy things it can do and that'll
>>> do me for the moment.
>>>
>>> Chrissie Managing Director The Global Voice
>>> http://theglobalvoice.info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com
>>> [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo Sent: Sunday,
>>> November 20, 2011 8:36 PM To: Reapers Without Peepers Subject: Re:
>>> [RWP] Installing reaccess part 2
>>>
>>> Yes, System Access also runs Reaper 64. It's only Window-Eyes that
>>> refuses to cooperate. That's not its only problem with Windows 7 64,
>>> as you will discover. We need to yell at GW Micro until they get
>>> Winize working right again, like it did in version 6.1. It's been a
>>> mess since version 7.0 to 7.5.1, apps didn't fix the screenreaders
>>> problems, just jazzed it up to distract us. Indigo L
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2011 11:15 AM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>>> I don't know what the problem might be...
>>>>
>>>> I use system access, and find that it works very well with reaper...
>>>>
>>>> you can try it out here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.satogo.com
>>>>
>>>> You might want to try a free version of "NVDA"...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
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>> the same things with or without ReaAccess.
>> ReaAccess doesn't do fancy things, it just makes doing multitrack
>> recording aeasy, instead of an incredible chore if you  using a
>> screenreader, can't drag and drop easily, can't see graphical
>> displays, all those things called access..
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