[RWP] Fw: [midi-mag] Accessibility Campaign
jinseng at yandex.ru
jinseng at yandex.ru
Wed May 11 02:32:02 EDT 2011
Hey guys, i'm just playing with these 3 Spectrasonics' toys and i'd like to note that Stylus is rather hard for access. It has plenty of possibilities but we have no any graphic or something else to deal with mouse cursor. Omnisphere and Trillian are more accessible but choosing the presets is anoying enough. it's a pity because the sound of Spectrasonics is very impressive. So maybe someone could tell any real hints for accessing these plug-ins?
By the way HSC doesn't support Stylus at all and support of Omnisphere is rather poor.
Cheers,
Jinseng.
11.05.2011, 01:53, "Roy Shtupler" <shtupler at 013.net>;:
> thanks very much; may consider a purchase sometime in the future , first I
> need to either borrow it from somebody for a test drive , or work with nvda
> and Reaper on someone else's computer where Stylus is installed.
> best
> Roy.
> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rene Kaaij" <kaaijmusic at gmail.com>;;
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>;;
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Fw: [midi-mag] Accessibility Campaign
>> Hi Roy,
>> I don't use the time designer feature that much. i mostly use Stylus for
>> the additional loops, or for the drumkits.
>> When I need to drag a loop onto a Reaper track, I select it with the
>> cursor routing on my Braille display, then lock the left mouse button with
>> NVDA. I move the real mouse to the fx window in Reaper, which is no
>> problem with NVDA and then I release my left mouse button.
>> Trilian and Omnisphere are a bit easier to operate, because it's possible
>> to select sounds with your braille display's cursor routing. There is also
>> a search filter which helps a lot.
>> Rene
>> Op 10 mei 2011, om 21:17 heeft Roy Shtupler het volgende geschreven:
>>> hi Rene
>>> do you have special hsc sets or some other means of accessing items in
>>> rmx?
>>> do you use the Chaos and time designer features?
>>> thanks a lot
>>> Roy.
>>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Kaaij" <kaaijmusic at gmail.com>;;
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>;;
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Fw: [midi-mag] Accessibility Campaign
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Just a short note about Spectrasonics, it's possible to work with their
>>>> plugins. I bought Stylus Rmx, Trilian and Omnisphere and work with them
>>>> everyday. You only have to be a little creative, but that's the case
>>>> with some more plugins that I use. I emailed with jonathan of
>>>> Spectrasonics some months ago and he told me that there are no plans for
>>>> making their plugins accessible with Voiceover at the moment. on windows
>>>> they work well enough to use them on a daily basis anyway...
>>>> I also think that people have to realize that the group of blind users
>>>> is relatively small, so I can understand that developers can't always
>>>> focus on accessibility in this case, seen from a commercial point of
>>>> view. So let's not focus on what isn't accessible, but let's focus on
>>>> what IS accessible. It's a lot more than you would probably think,
>>>> especially on Windows.
>>>> The Physical Modeling Collection from Applied Acoustics is really
>>>> accessible and their authorization system works very fast, to mention
>>>> one...
>>>> Rene
>>>> Op 10 mei 2011, om 18:23 heeft Roy Shtupler het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> www.soundclick.com/tzackeek
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maik Brodnicki"
>>>>> <maik at brodnicki.biz>;;
>>>>> To: <midimag at midimag.org>;;
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: [midi-mag] Accessibility Campaign
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Music and Midi Fans,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am writing to you from a German sonar list in order to draw your
>>>>> attention to a campaign that you might be interested in.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to contact us, please sign up at
>>>>> blindsonar at ml4free.de.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some time ago, we had launched a mailing campaign in which we informed
>>>>> manufacturers of our problem of not being able to use many of the
>>>>> plugins. Unfortunately, the result of the campaign was rather poor.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was obviously because only one e-mail was sent, making it
>>>>> impossible to ascertain how many people are actually interested in this
>>>>> subject. Thus, we thought of compiling a list of plugins that we are
>>>>> interested in and whose manufacturers we could write to. If everyone
>>>>> were to write a personal e-mail, the manufacturers would see how many
>>>>> there are who would like to have accessible plugins. Spectrasonics, for
>>>>> example, mentioned that they are planning to make Omnisphere accessible
>>>>> in a future update. Now we are looking for others who would like to
>>>>> join us in order to increase the chances of getting accessible plugins.
>>>>> I would greatly appreciate your participation in the campaign. Since
>>>>> the introduction of Voiceover, the high level of awareness to this
>>>>> screenreader and to the term "accessibility" among manufacturers has
>>>>> greatly increased our chances. Further below, you will find a list of
>>>>> manufacturers along with their support e-mail addresses or the forum
>>>>> thread under which you
>>>> can contact them.
>>>>> You will also find a standard text (separated from the other text with
>>>>> an asterisk) that you can send to the support teams as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please also post other manufacturers with e-mail addresses in your or
>>>>> our blind sonar list and write letters to these, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps you could also distribute this text in other mailing lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> And do not forget: the more people participate, the greater the
>>>>> probability that we will soon have a number of barrier-free plugins to
>>>>> work with.
>>>>>
>>>>> And here is the standard text. It is written in such a way that Mac and
>>>>> Windows users alike can use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you can simply use the same text, though it might be better
>>>>> to use a slightly different wording.
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear * Support Team,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in ** and have a question concerning the plugin. As I
>>>>> am blind, I need to use aids like screenreaders. Efficient solutions
>>>>> are available both for Windows and for Mac. You might have heard of
>>>>> Voiceover, the integrated screenreader of Mac. Have your plugins been
>>>>> programmed as barrier-free? This would be important for me to use them.
>>>>> For the screenreader to be able to read the information, the plugin
>>>>> must contain standard elements in Windows or the cocoa framework in
>>>>> Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple has published documentation for manufacturers that shows the
>>>>> requirements that need to be fulfilled to make a program barrier-free.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html
>>>>>
>>>>> And here for Windows:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/germany/msdn/aktuell/news/show.mspx?id=msdn_de_43594
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is not the case, my next question would be whether anything in
>>>>> this line is planned for a future update?
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to you reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely, *
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a list of manufacturers in which we are interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the list of manufacturers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the products that are interesting for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Logic Pro
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Apple
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: accessibility at apple.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Please dont send the documentation to Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Omnisphere
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Spectrasonics
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: info at spectrasonics.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Be sure to write to this company - an update is as good as promised!
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Motu BPM (groove plugin with huge library)
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Motu
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: sales at motu.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The page mentioned something about accessibility. However, I have not
>>>>> been able to find out what that means.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Blue, Predator, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Rob Papen
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: info at robpapen.com
>>>>>
>>>>> A genuine synthesizer genius
>>>>>
>>>>> 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Nexus, Quadrasid
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: REFX www.refx.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Registration is necessary in order to get a ticket. However, the
>>>>> registration is very fast. By the way: Quadrasid emulates a C64 and
>>>>> sounds superb.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Bidule, Chipsounds
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Plogue www.plogue.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Bidule is a modular DAW, and Chipsounds is a chip emulator that
>>>>> emulates the sounds of the old Nintendo, Amiga, and Atari.
>>>>>
>>>>> The manufacturer told us that they would look into the matter if they
>>>>> received a sufficient number of requests.
>>>>>
>>>>> The accessibility thread can be found here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5637
>>>>> As I said, if you post your favorite VSTs, I will write to their
>>>>> support teams, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two or three sentences would be sufficient.
>>>>>
>>>>> 7.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Valhallaroom
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Valhalla DSP
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: sean at valhalladsp.com
>>>>>
>>>>> A hall plugin programming genius
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Kontakt, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Native Instruments
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to the contact form:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://co.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=infosuppform
>>>>>
>>>>> 9.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Vienna Libraries
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: VSL
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: support at vsl.co.at
>>>>>
>>>>> Arguably the best manufacturer for orchestra instruments.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Independence
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Yellow Tools
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: support at yellowtools.com
>>>>>
>>>>> 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> Product: Wavelab 7, Halion, and Cubase
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturer: Steinberg
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: info at steinberg.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maik
>>>>>
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to: midimag-unsubscribe at midimag.org
>>>>> http://www.midimag.org/
>>>>>
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>>>> renekaaij at kaaijmusic.com
>>>>
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